Paying for a car at the other end of the country....
Paying for a car at the other end of the country....
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kiethton

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14,647 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Well a car was won on ebay but happens to be at the opposite end of the country.

The seller is able to arrange delivery but wants payment to be made via bank transfer, what is there to stop them from just keeping the money and not shipping the car, how should I progress this?

(Or any PHers able to let me borrow a car transporter/car with tow bar and car transporter this coming weekend for a trip from Orpington to Aberdeen and back...) - I will of course cover all costs

SMGB

790 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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There is a site where you post the car and end points and the transporter guys bid on the job. I was close to having to use it to save an MGR MGF VVC press car owned by a member of the Scottish branch. Luckily a local stepped up.
http://www.shiply.com/

kiethton

Original Poster:

14,647 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Thanks for the Shiply link, I have used them to transport a car from Grays to Orpington but never that far, although I should get a quote (seller is quoting £155)

My main concern lies with the payment for the car before it gets delivered (seller has 1 feedback, although positive)

Rubin215

4,200 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Absolutely nothing to stop him.

DON'T use a bank transfer.

Paypal is your safest for ebay, but he loses a percentage to them and also it is risky for him, but you are in the driving seat over the transaction, not him (see what I did there?)

kiethton

Original Poster:

14,647 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Rubin215 said:
Absolutely nothing to stop him.

DON'T use a bank transfer.

Paypal is your safest for ebay, but he loses a percentage to them and also it is risky for him, but you are in the driving seat over the transaction, not him (see what I did there?)
Indeed, that was what i was hoping but the seller isn't offering it.....

Would it be possible to arrange my own collection through Shiply and then just transfer the money when the driver gets there and is loading the car?

Rubin215

4,200 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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As soon as you click send for a bank transfer the money is gone and will never come back (without knowing the guy's real address and sending round the financial advisors...).

I worked with a guy who lost £4k that way; as soon as the money was transferred the seller disappeared, despite the paper trail and checks he had done beforehand.

After a month of futile attempts to find him/sort it out/get his car he gave it up as a lesson in life.

Aberdeen isn't all that far away (it's the UK ffs, not Australia); get a cheap flight or a train up and drive the car back.

kiethton

Original Poster:

14,647 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Rubin215 said:
As soon as you click send for a bank transfer the money is gone and will never come back (without knowing the guy's real address and sending round the financial advisors...).

I worked with a guy who lost £4k that way; as soon as the money was transferred the seller disappeared, despite the paper trail and checks he had done beforehand.

After a month of futile attempts to find him/sort it out/get his car he gave it up as a lesson in life.

Aberdeen isn't all that far away (it's the UK ffs, not Australia); get a cheap flight or a train up and drive the car back.
Indeed, that is my fear and the price is similar - I can't afford to loose it, this is part of my house deposit! - may have to pull out tbh and wait for a better time, although a £1.5k profit even if offloading at WBAC valuation is at stake (cant profit if i'm shafted with no car though...)

The car doesn't drive (gearbox fault) else thats what I would be doing.


Edited by kiethton on Tuesday 16th October 23:55

traffman

2,263 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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Fly to Aberdeen airport and drive the car back . Epic trip . i would love to do that!

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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traffman said:
Fly to Aberdeen airport and drive the car back . Epic trip . i would love to do that!
This.

Rubin215

4,200 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th October 2012
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You hear that tinnitus sound?

It's actually alarm bells.

Gearbox fault, other end of country, bank transfer.

This is the kind of thing you read about on the internet and wonder how people can be so naive...

traffman

2,263 posts

238 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Oh gearbox fault ! Well sign up to the AA / RAC or Green flag and if it goes tits up they'll transport you and the car all the way back home.

Living in Scotland i have had experience of this as everything allways seem's to be flipping miles away!

kiethton

Original Poster:

14,647 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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traffman said:
Oh gearbox fault ! Well sign up to the AA / RAC or Green flag and if it goes tits up they'll transport you and the car all the way back home.

Living in Scotland i have had experience of this as everything allways seem's to be flipping miles away!
Indeed, issue is that gears wont actually engage to get anywhere even before the RAC come and collect me/the car.

I am a little nervous about it, if I can't arrange a safer payment method i'm going to have to pull out....(and be one of those annoying ebayers!, although not intentionally)

james280779

1,931 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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I have bought five cars and sold one in the UK whilst actually being in Australia.

If they are genuine, call and have a chat. I have done this a few times so they know I am genuine. When I bought my 911 I ended up chatting with the guy for about half an hour as we had very similar taste in cars and had owned many similar vehicles. I ended up buying two from him and when I landed in the UK taking a few of his Ferrari's out for a test drive - unfortunately the Bently GT was having a wheel refurb frown .

When sending Money from an Australian bank account to a UK bank account, you need to provide the full address of the receiver which has to be confirmed by the receivers bank. For some reason they dont do that UK to UK account.

Anyway as I said, I have had six deals via opposite side of the world and never an issue. Mixture of Ebay and PH.


steveo3002

11,206 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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how about arrange collection van for such n such time , fly up and pay the guy in person and get the papers in hand and then sit about and wait for the collection guy?

its gona cost you £150 tops to fly /taxi there

daveR6

111 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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kiethton said:
Well a car was won on ebay but happens to be at the opposite end of the country.

The seller is able to arrange delivery but wants payment to be made via bank transfer, what is there to stop them from just keeping the money and not shipping the car, how should I progress this?

(Or any PHers able to let me borrow a car transporter/car with tow bar and car transporter this coming weekend for a trip from Orpington to Aberdeen and back...) - I will of course cover all costs
I stay in Aberdeen and would be willing to offer some assistance.

Let me know if you need it.

deltashad

6,731 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Can you not send him a small deposit to keep him sweet?

Get a PH'er from Aberdeen to look at the car for you.
Then rent a trailer, borrow a car with a towbar and pay in full (minus deposit) when you collect.

smile

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Without trying to be obtuse, why the fk didn't you think of this before bidding?

Speed addicted

6,329 posts

256 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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daveR6 said:
I stay in Aberdeen and would be willing to offer some assistance.

Let me know if you need it.
+1, I work offshore and am off for the next two weeks.

What sort of car is it?

I've regularly bought cars and bikes from the other end of the country. At some point you're going to have to trust someone!

Having said that let the seller know you have people up here to have a look at the car (and take pictures if needed) and see what they say. If they're dodgy you should be able to tell quite quickly.

kiethton

Original Poster:

14,647 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Speed addicted said:
daveR6 said:
I stay in Aberdeen and would be willing to offer some assistance.

Let me know if you need it.
+1, I work offshore and am off for the next two weeks.

What sort of car is it?

I've regularly bought cars and bikes from the other end of the country. At some point you're going to have to trust someone!

Having said that let the seller know you have people up here to have a look at the car (and take pictures if needed) and see what they say. If they're dodgy you should be able to tell quite quickly.
The car - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140865878989?ssPageName=...

Been quoted £450 to have all corners fixed, spotted new gearbox for £250 and shouldnt be more than £300 to fit. Allowing for a little more cleaning/polishing WBAC have offered £6,500.....

Had an idea for where I can get a tow car/minibus - I see a saturday evening - sunday roadtrip coming on.....

daveR6

111 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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The Ebay username is Aberdeen Arnold and I instantly thought of Arnold Clark which is a big company that sells cars.

I wouldn't be suprised if this was stolen off the forecourt and found again (just a stab in the dark guess).

The location is listed as Bridge of Don and I work in Bridge of Don so can pop round to check out and give you piece of mind if you so wish.

David