Bose Aucoutimass 10 Speakers
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Afternoon all,
First post so here goes.
Looking to upgrade my current Yamaha 5.1 speakers and def like the look of the Bose speakers.
I have a samsung av amp so would this just be a case of hooking them up to this or would i need to upgrade amp also?
Sounds obvious but I guess the Bose speakers use normal speaker wire and not some fancy system they use so you have to accompany your speakers with a Bose av / amp...
Also I am open to suggestions I like the Bose but if there is a better alternative feel free to suggest although keep the suggestions to compact small speakers as I appreciate there maybe bigger better sounding separates I could go for but my main criteria is small and compact!!
Dan
First post so here goes.
Looking to upgrade my current Yamaha 5.1 speakers and def like the look of the Bose speakers.
I have a samsung av amp so would this just be a case of hooking them up to this or would i need to upgrade amp also?
Sounds obvious but I guess the Bose speakers use normal speaker wire and not some fancy system they use so you have to accompany your speakers with a Bose av / amp...
Also I am open to suggestions I like the Bose but if there is a better alternative feel free to suggest although keep the suggestions to compact small speakers as I appreciate there maybe bigger better sounding separates I could go for but my main criteria is small and compact!!
Dan
Stubbsy said:
Afternoon all,
First post so here goes.
Looking to upgrade my current Yamaha 5.1 speakers and def like the look of the Bose speakers.
I have a samsung av amp so would this just be a case of hooking them up to this or would i need to upgrade amp also?
Sounds obvious but I guess the Bose speakers use normal speaker wire and not some fancy system they use so you have to accompany your speakers with a Bose av / amp...
Also I am open to suggestions I like the Bose but if there is a better alternative feel free to suggest although keep the suggestions to compact small speakers as I appreciate there maybe bigger better sounding separates I could go for but my main criteria is small and compact!!
Dan
BuyFirst post so here goes.
Looking to upgrade my current Yamaha 5.1 speakers and def like the look of the Bose speakers.
I have a samsung av amp so would this just be a case of hooking them up to this or would i need to upgrade amp also?
Sounds obvious but I guess the Bose speakers use normal speaker wire and not some fancy system they use so you have to accompany your speakers with a Bose av / amp...
Also I am open to suggestions I like the Bose but if there is a better alternative feel free to suggest although keep the suggestions to compact small speakers as I appreciate there maybe bigger better sounding separates I could go for but my main criteria is small and compact!!
Dan
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It is very "cool", "clever" and "popular" to hate BOSE on all AV forums. You will be told that for the price you can buy a system that will recreate a caterpillars fart with perfect mid range. The only down side will be that the black box speakers will be the size of a small family hatch back.
The reality is that if you use your system more for films than music BOSE can sound fantastic. For music they can sound good. The speakers are small and as a result pass the wife test. Also, if you room is acoustically poor you can spend as much as you want and it will still sound like crap. And then there is your amp, if its rubbish (old does not equal rubbish) then it's all a waste of time.
I installed BOSE for 10 years and never had an unsatisfied customer. One of which was one of the most famous and successful recording artists and composers in Britain. He had Bose in every room in his house except his recording studio because they filled his need. I've even had a customer hook up an active BOSE system to a B&O CD player because he preferred the BOSE sound in that room when tested.
They use normal speaker cables for the speakers. Just make sure you select the right active or passive system.
The reality is that if you use your system more for films than music BOSE can sound fantastic. For music they can sound good. The speakers are small and as a result pass the wife test. Also, if you room is acoustically poor you can spend as much as you want and it will still sound like crap. And then there is your amp, if its rubbish (old does not equal rubbish) then it's all a waste of time.
I installed BOSE for 10 years and never had an unsatisfied customer. One of which was one of the most famous and successful recording artists and composers in Britain. He had Bose in every room in his house except his recording studio because they filled his need. I've even had a customer hook up an active BOSE system to a B&O CD player because he preferred the BOSE sound in that room when tested.
They use normal speaker cables for the speakers. Just make sure you select the right active or passive system.
h0b0 said:
It is very "cool", "clever" and "popular" to hate BOSE on all AV forums. You will be told that for the price you can buy a system that will recreate a caterpillars fart with perfect mid range. The only down side will be that the black box speakers will be the size of a small family hatch back.
Thanks for that. I wasn't trying to be 'cool', 'clever' or 'popular'.When I was setting up my A/V system (5 years ago), I listened to Bose as well as many other manufacturers' speakers. I went for the Kef (KHTsomething, if memory serves) as they sounded (to my ears) far superior to the Bose, an opinion shared by many others. It's not snobbery; why would anyone aspire to Bose anyway? Maybe an expensive price tag appeals to some; I'd rather use my ears. It was a similar situation when looking for an iPod dock. Again, despite the high price of the SoundDock, others sounded much better. I bought a B&W Zeppelin. Twice.
And to say that the Bose sounded better than the B&O...a perfect example of design-led equipment. How often do you see any B&O kit recommended in tests?
Maybe you don't have such choice in the US?
I like the idea of Bose - small speakers - but can't say I've ever listened to a system.
I currently have a set of Mission FS2-AV (anyone remember them) which I've never got round to replacing for general home cinema duty, but they are getting a bit long in the tooth.
In terms of discreet options - what else is there?
(I'm probably looking for something at the beginning of next year)
I currently have a set of Mission FS2-AV (anyone remember them) which I've never got round to replacing for general home cinema duty, but they are getting a bit long in the tooth.
In terms of discreet options - what else is there?
(I'm probably looking for something at the beginning of next year)
AdeTuono said:
Thanks for that. I wasn't trying to be 'cool', 'clever' or 'popular'.
When I was setting up my A/V system (5 years ago), I listened to Bose as well as many other manufacturers' speakers. I went for the Kef (KHTsomething, if memory serves) as they sounded (to my ears) far superior to the Bose,
My comments were not directed at you they were general and still stand. AV forums are full of experts that make recommendations having no experience. However, you did the right thing and make a choice based on listening to the products. I respect that. When I was setting up my A/V system (5 years ago), I listened to Bose as well as many other manufacturers' speakers. I went for the Kef (KHTsomething, if memory serves) as they sounded (to my ears) far superior to the Bose,
AdeTuono said:
And to say that the Bose sounded better than the B&O...a perfect example of design-led equipment. How often do you see any B&O kit recommended in tests?
OK, I admit I put this in to really get a reaction from AV forum dwellers. B&O are excessively priced. But, B&O have been an innovator in design and quality for years. If you have a knowledge of their products then you appreciate that. I'm sure there will be someone along saying how they use Phillips components. To even make that statement shows that they do not understand how the industry worked up until plasma screens. You had to use either Phillips or Sony. That was the choice. However, you could go to Phillips and give them your own specifications. AdeTuono said:
Maybe you don't have such choice in the US?
I only moved to the US after a career change. I spent my first 25 years living in the north of England working with some of the most successful and affluent people in the country. We offered all options for installations but the people we worked with tended not to be audiophiles in the living space. 99% would go with BOSE or B&O because it worked for what they needed. I think significantly, the price was not a driving factor for my customers. I think this is where people get upset with BOSE and B&O most and if price are not a concern when comparing products then people are less critical. I have the Bose Acoustimass 10 running through a Denon AV amp.
Very happy with the sound , I actually bought the Bose about 6 years ago secondhand. In immaculate condition for about
£420 I think. I had been looking at alternatives, but this set came up at a price too good to turn down.
Very happy with the sound , I actually bought the Bose about 6 years ago secondhand. In immaculate condition for about
£420 I think. I had been looking at alternatives, but this set came up at a price too good to turn down.
I have just moved from an apartment over looking the NYC skyline to a house 15 miles out. We needed the space now we have a son and we are still close enough to drop into the city. (We took my father on a walk in Meat packing today)
Back on topic, I don't want to come across as a fan boy because I currently have no BOSE and only have a telephone from B&O. I just don't like standard AV forum opinions. A Nissan GTR is better than an Aston in almost every way and it is half the price. So why do I see twice as many Astons? Personal choice, that's why. If we didn't have it we would all be driving the same car. It's the same in AV, sometimes you can't justify a decision based on specifications.
Don't forget my original point, I've heard some mega systems sound like crap due to acoustics. Using the car analogy again, you can buy the best car and still be a crap driver. You can buy the best AV system and have a crap room. Simple furnishings can have more of an impact than changing components.
Back on topic, I don't want to come across as a fan boy because I currently have no BOSE and only have a telephone from B&O. I just don't like standard AV forum opinions. A Nissan GTR is better than an Aston in almost every way and it is half the price. So why do I see twice as many Astons? Personal choice, that's why. If we didn't have it we would all be driving the same car. It's the same in AV, sometimes you can't justify a decision based on specifications.
Don't forget my original point, I've heard some mega systems sound like crap due to acoustics. Using the car analogy again, you can buy the best car and still be a crap driver. You can buy the best AV system and have a crap room. Simple furnishings can have more of an impact than changing components.
I agree wholeheartedly agree that your room is often the defining factor on how good a system sounds, but my experience of Bose is that it is style and marketing over substance.
In isolation they sound ok unless you have tuned your ears on decent systems, but as most people are comparing them to the built in TV speakers, then of course they sound great!
I do have a bit of a problem with Bose after having wasted my own money on their products after having been caught up in the marketing hype, so I learnt from that to always demo against competitors. Since doing that, I've never bought another piece of Bose kit despite having tested them.
They may have been good in the past (reputations don't spring from nowhere) but I don't think they are much cop now.
In isolation they sound ok unless you have tuned your ears on decent systems, but as most people are comparing them to the built in TV speakers, then of course they sound great!
I do have a bit of a problem with Bose after having wasted my own money on their products after having been caught up in the marketing hype, so I learnt from that to always demo against competitors. Since doing that, I've never bought another piece of Bose kit despite having tested them.
They may have been good in the past (reputations don't spring from nowhere) but I don't think they are much cop now.
Thanks for the feedback people.
Guess mixed views on bose!!!
Been looking at couple of alternatives...
Quite look the like of Q acoustics 2000i - they look nice and compact.
Also like the look of the kef kht2005.3 - not as compact but look nice also!
Anyone had any experience views on the two above?
Guess mixed views on bose!!!
Been looking at couple of alternatives...
Quite look the like of Q acoustics 2000i - they look nice and compact.
Also like the look of the kef kht2005.3 - not as compact but look nice also!
Anyone had any experience views on the two above?
I've used a bose lifestyle 30 with 5.1 accoustimass mini cubes in throughout 2 houses, main use was surround sound for movies but also for music and for the size of the equipment and looks it was great. Not outstanding but to the layman it was a good sound.
I then moved and with plotty on here had a yamaha amp with RBH in wall front speakers and Anthony gallo rears
http://www.anthonygallo.co.uk/pages/products-speak...
That sound was awesome, had a massive accoustic energy sub too.
Then moved again and now setup in living room with a set of kef eggs: http://www.kef.com/html/gb/explore/about_kef/museu...
but I substituted the sub for the accoustic energy one, it sounds brilliant all round.
In kitchen I still have the RBH in wall speakers and the gallos with the sub from the kef under the seating, again great sound...
BUT, to finish off, in my bedroom I have the bose speakers for surround sound off tv and honestly, it sounds great. you wouldnt grumble listening to any of them.
Podie, my suggestion btw is to try the Kef 3005's. I think you might like. They look pretty too.
I then moved and with plotty on here had a yamaha amp with RBH in wall front speakers and Anthony gallo rears
http://www.anthonygallo.co.uk/pages/products-speak...
That sound was awesome, had a massive accoustic energy sub too.
Then moved again and now setup in living room with a set of kef eggs: http://www.kef.com/html/gb/explore/about_kef/museu...
but I substituted the sub for the accoustic energy one, it sounds brilliant all round.
In kitchen I still have the RBH in wall speakers and the gallos with the sub from the kef under the seating, again great sound...
BUT, to finish off, in my bedroom I have the bose speakers for surround sound off tv and honestly, it sounds great. you wouldnt grumble listening to any of them.
Podie, my suggestion btw is to try the Kef 3005's. I think you might like. They look pretty too.
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