Why can't Mosley keep away?
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Just read the article on Autosport - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103560 - in which Mosley says that Todt needs to be more confrontational with the F1 teams. Whilst he admits it is a different style from him why can't he just keep away and not try to inflict his own warped sense on things? We know he likes pain, both receiving and inflicting it, but there are other ways to work and I am relieved that Todt has found one and not continued the Mosley way. F1 has been so much more enjoyable with much less political interference.
andyps said:
Just read the article on Autosport - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103560 - in which Mosley says that Todt needs to be more confrontational with the F1 teams. Whilst he admits it is a different style from him why can't he just keep away and not try to inflict his own warped sense on things? We know he likes pain, both receiving and inflicting it, but there are other ways to work and I am relieved that Todt has found one and not continued the Mosley way. F1 has been so much more enjoyable with much less political interference.
He's a textbook narcissist. There is no other, or different way, but his - everything and everyone else is wrong. 
Eric Mc said:
He'd fit in well on PH.
Thats very true.But while we enjoy a bicker in an environment largely free of consequence or weight of tone, if transposed to the position of FIA president, most of us would appreciate the difference and seriousness of role and ultimately conduct ourselves with more grace, diplomacy, professionalism, and so on.
hairyben said:
Thats very true.
But while we enjoy a bicker in an environment largely free of consequence or weight of tone, if transposed to the position of FIA president, most of us would appreciate the difference and seriousness of role and ultimately conduct ourselves with more grace, diplomacy, professionalism, and so on.
A shame Mosley didn't do that whey he was president!But while we enjoy a bicker in an environment largely free of consequence or weight of tone, if transposed to the position of FIA president, most of us would appreciate the difference and seriousness of role and ultimately conduct ourselves with more grace, diplomacy, professionalism, and so on.
Mosley was on that F1 show thingy last week and to be honest he came across as very well. He clearly had some good ideas for F1, but due to political reasons (and some newspapers) he couldn't go ahead with them. He definitely came across as someone who wasn't bothered about pissing off Ferrari as well.
fomb said:
Mosley was on that F1 show thingy last week and to be honest he came across as very well.
This is one of his skills I'm afraid - he can come across as convincing and compelling and make you think he's being entirely reasonable.It's only a little while later that you end up thinking "Hang on a minute !!!".
The guy is toxic and why anyone listens to him any more is beyond me.
carinaman said:
I really don't like the bloke, but round about the time of Leveson I heard him once on the radio and he seemed to have got some humility from somewhere. I guess I could have been mistaken.
Sorry, I don't agree. I heard him and just heard someone moaning about being found out for something he was embarrassed about being made public and blamed anyone but himself for being in the situation to start with. As pointed out, he is very clever with words and can sound convincing on the surface.Mosley took over motor sport from Balestre when it was in a very strong position. In those days I went to WSC events each year, the Lombard RAC rally and one year two GPs. I also used to go to club events where I saw lower level sports cars and F2 races. The places were packed. I remember being at Brands when Herbert had his accident and the stands at Paddock was packed.
I went to an international sports car race at Silverstone when the spectators numbered less than a couple of hundred. The crowd I used to go rallying (watching) with now doesn't bother.
Sports car racing was at a high in the late 80s. I remember going to Donington for three days in 89(or so) and there being crowds on race day. There were Mercs, Jags, and an Aston bashing door mirrors. Mosley became president of FISA around that time and took over completely in 91. Since then all non-F1 sports have gone downhill and F1 hs gone through some very bad times.
Mosely oversaw the most boring period in GP racing since 66. The image of F1 suffered tremendously.
So regardless of him as a person, his performance in posts was, let us say, spectacular but not in a good way. Even his much-hyped safety regs were forced on him after the deaths of Senna and Ratzenberger. They were not his designs. Indeed the proposals were 'on his table' when the two drives died.
The irony is that Balestre was, some suggest, voted out due to his favouritism for either, depending on whom you believe, Prost or anyone other than Senna. Then we had the Verstappen fire, probably the most potentially dangerous incident in F1 history, and Mosley intervened and hushed it up.
Furhter, the major source of income for the FIA was F1 in Mosley's days. When he left the money all but dried up. All of a sudden the super licences was virtually all that it got from the sport. The FIA is meant to be a non profit making organisation. Mosely ensured that it was.
I went to an international sports car race at Silverstone when the spectators numbered less than a couple of hundred. The crowd I used to go rallying (watching) with now doesn't bother.
Sports car racing was at a high in the late 80s. I remember going to Donington for three days in 89(or so) and there being crowds on race day. There were Mercs, Jags, and an Aston bashing door mirrors. Mosley became president of FISA around that time and took over completely in 91. Since then all non-F1 sports have gone downhill and F1 hs gone through some very bad times.
Mosely oversaw the most boring period in GP racing since 66. The image of F1 suffered tremendously.
So regardless of him as a person, his performance in posts was, let us say, spectacular but not in a good way. Even his much-hyped safety regs were forced on him after the deaths of Senna and Ratzenberger. They were not his designs. Indeed the proposals were 'on his table' when the two drives died.
The irony is that Balestre was, some suggest, voted out due to his favouritism for either, depending on whom you believe, Prost or anyone other than Senna. Then we had the Verstappen fire, probably the most potentially dangerous incident in F1 history, and Mosley intervened and hushed it up.
Furhter, the major source of income for the FIA was F1 in Mosley's days. When he left the money all but dried up. All of a sudden the super licences was virtually all that it got from the sport. The FIA is meant to be a non profit making organisation. Mosely ensured that it was.
fomb said:
Mosley was on that F1 show thingy last week and to be honest he came across as very well. He clearly had some good ideas for F1, but due to political reasons (and some newspapers) he couldn't go ahead with them. He definitely came across as someone who wasn't bothered about pissing off Ferrari as well.
I don't understand why he was on it and why he's back in the motorsport press. Worse case scenario, he's looking to get back into the FIA ?Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff