Am I expecting too much ?

[DibblyDobbler]

Gents - your thoughts would be appreciated

Got this recently - pleasant enough snap, nothing special.


York Cathedral by Dibbly Dobbler, on Flickr

But looking a bit closer the resolution seems, well, crap frankly.


York Cathedral (crop) by Dibbly Dobbler, on Flickr

Shot was taken on my 60D with Tamron 18-270 at 65mm, f8, 1/1600 and iso800.

The crop seems really soft - to be expected or is something up ?

[markmullen]

I don't think that is bad for a superzoom at a highish ISO.

Superzoom like that are a compromise, if you start pixel peeping you'll see where but overall I don't think that is terribly bad.

[RobDickinson]

Severely backlit low contrast subject with a superzoom and ISO 800? Also consider atmospheric conditions which look less than ideal (hazy).

[DibblyDobbler]

Thanks Gents - short answer is yes then I guess

I'm beginning to think the whole 'walkabout lens' dilemma would be best solved by an S100 (Santa are you listening?!) which is an integral part of my masterplan to chop in my 60D and the Tamron 18-207 and my 10-22 (and maybe the 100L - jury's out on that) for a 6D and a 24-70 - by the powers of man-maths it shouldn't set me back too much

[Simpo Two]

Looks fair enough to me - noise and low contrast but it's a crop after all.

It's very easy with digital images to zoom in until you find a problem - but realise it will never normally be seen like this. Zoom back and the problem disappears

[DibblyDobbler]

Cheers Simpo

[Killwilly]

There is nothing wrong with the 60D, which is a very capable camera and able to handle ISO 800 and 1600 easily. Not quite sure why you should choose such a high ISO in those conditions.

In the link below you will find almost 1800 posts pertaining to the Tamron 18-270 and no doubt quite a few taken with the 60D.

On my screen the sharpest point of focus is the branch just right of centre, which can just be seen in the second shot.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php...

[gangzoom]

Atomospheric conditions, not the right focuse points are probably why it doesn't look sharp.

Not entirely sure spending £2k upgrading to a FF camera is going to help...still if you afford to why not

[DibblyDobbler]

Killwilly said:

There is nothing wrong with the 60D, which is a very capable camera and able to handle ISO 800 and 1600 easily. Not quite sure why you should choose such a high ISO in those conditions.

In the link below you will find almost 1800 posts pertaining to the Tamron 18-270 and no doubt quite a few taken with the 60D.

On my screen the sharpest point of focus is the branch just right of centre, which can just be seen in the second shot.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php...

Thanks for the comments

I had the ISO up as I was shooting in the shade earlier and as you say, it should handle it no problem so why not.

[DibblyDobbler]

gangzoom said:

Atomospheric conditions, not the right focuse points are probably why it doesn't look sharp.

Not entirely sure spending £2k upgrading to a FF camera is going to help...still if you afford to why not

I've got it on center point focus at the moment so not sure why this would be an issue

And as to your second comment re upgrading to FF - don't spoil my fun please!

[2slo]

There is no such thing as too many cameras

[DibblyDobbler]

2slo said:

There is no such thing as too many cameras

Agreed!

[MysteryLemon]

I wouldn't say you are execting too much but at quite a high ISO, there is bound to be grain in the detail.

It looks quite a bright shot though and indeed, looking at the shot info, there is defo room to bring the ISO down. Any reason you picked 800iso to shoot at rather than 2/400?

ETA, Noticed a reply above. The camera may be able to handle high ISO ok but it will still be grainier than a lower ISO setting. It looks quite a flat, shadowed area. The camera probably didn't quite know what to do with it so just stuck a load of noise in instead trying to bring out the detail. Lower ISO ftw.

Edited by MysteryLemon on Sunday 21st October 13:18