Formula Ford 2013
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designndrive62

Original Poster:

801 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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Not sure about the new Formula Fords for 2013 with wings - looks a bit too much like the aweful formula Zip from a few years back for my liking!!!

Fonz

361 posts

213 months

Sunday 21st October 2012
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+1

I remember someone refering to that series as formula bog seat and to be honist I had to agree with them. This car looks awfull as well. Mind you I would say that as I think the ultimate race car was the first Lotus 49.

coppice

9,698 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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About as much to do with the spirit of Formula Ford as a bloody Veyron. We had huge grids . great racing. many different chassis. great drivers working their way up through the series, the FF Festival- why did it all go so awfully wrong ? Turbos, slicks . wings - dull dull dull.

andygo

7,390 posts

284 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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coppice said:
About as much to do with the spirit of Formula Ford as a bloody Veyron. We had huge grids . great racing. many different chassis. great drivers working their way up through the series, the FF Festival- why did it all go so awfully wrong ? Turbos, slicks . wings - dull dull dull.
Its the FFord Festival this weekend. A shadow of its former self, its now an add on the the main programme.

emicen

9,229 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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It does seem to be a really big departure from what Formula Ford has always been about.

The engine change itself doesn't bother me that much, its more the aero aids, slicks and faux-ST alloy wheels. Formula Fords are meant to dance and squirm around on the track, they're about finding the limit of useable mechanical grip for cornering and braking.

Its a vast shift from a formula which has proven successful across several decades.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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I've always enjoyed watching FF, though I'm not an avid follower. But slicks and wings doesn't sound like it'll improve things any, I have to say.

37chevy

3,280 posts

185 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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The main thing now is what does it add to British Motorsport, before it was all about driving skill, learning and being relatively cheep. The new car pits itself directly against the new formula 4 championship and formula Renault....a dangerous strategy

Cyder

7,186 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Looks like any other generic formula car now. frown

lord summerisle

8,173 posts

254 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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so really, there is a gap in the market to provide for the sector of the racing community FF has left.

KaraK

13,784 posts

238 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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While I think the car actually looks pretty good I do think it's a shame that the philosophy of the FF car appears to have changed so much frown

Don't get me wrong I like slicks and wings formulae but we already have plenty of those and I liked the fact that it sat between karting and the more full on formulae if that makes sense?

rallycross

13,737 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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FF should be budget entry to motor racing with big grids, using cheap road tyres, cars with low technical spec running production based motors with limited tuning, easy to repair spec' chassis that are inexpensive to buy/fix.

designndrive62

Original Poster:

801 posts

186 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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My fears are for the future of club-level single seater racing.
Many of the Kent 1600 cars are now boardering on historic and the Kent engines are getting a bit long in the tooth. my thoughts are who is going to want to race the zetec and duratec cars that have populated formula ford for the past few years - its not exactly like the class was a roaring success so can't see alot of cars floating around to continue the ff1600 type club series races??

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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rallycross said:
FF should be budget entry to motor racing with big grids, using cheap road tyres, cars with low technical spec running production based motors with limited tuning, easy to repair spec' chassis that are inexpensive to buy/fix.
Formula Vee?

rallycross

13,737 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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EDLT said:
Formula Vee?
Now you mention it that does sound very similar! Except formula V is stuck with old engines not current units which FF needs to be taken seriously.

It all comes down to budget - there is not enough money to go round, there is a clear gap in the championship ladder now that FR has left the UK but if FF demands huge budgets where is the money going to come from?

coppice

9,698 posts

173 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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It's ample testimony for both why I love historic FF1600 racing and why so many drivers compete in HSCC series.This new thing- I think it will be the resounding success which Formula BMW wasn't...

micron750

845 posts

261 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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FFS why mend something that ain't broke its gonna turn Fford into another follow the leader championship grat idea NOT!!!

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Not sure i like that looks to small looks like a formula vee type car. It will also be a support package for the btcc so may gain entries due to increased tv expouser. there is a new series formula 4 from msv and have already sold all 24 cars.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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The new car looks terrible in comparison to the old looking cars and the engine note is terrible too however the grids will be full/ish because of the live tv coverage. Not sure it needs the wings though, i dont know if they will be that effective with such little power, look at the GP3 cars they ran their cars with very little wing even on "high downforce" circuits.

designndrive62

Original Poster:

801 posts

186 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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tux said:
The new car looks terrible in comparison to the old looking cars and the engine note is terrible too however the grids will be full/ish because of the live tv coverage. Not sure it needs the wings though, i dont know if they will be that effective with such little power, look at the GP3 cars they ran their cars with very little wing even on "high downforce" circuits.
Agreed, to me the rear and front wings don't even look adjustable???

coppice

9,698 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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TV coverage didn't do much for FRenault did it- despite often being the best bit of BTCC package in its heyday.