Soft or hard breaking - which wears more
Soft or hard breaking - which wears more
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swindler

Original Poster:

280 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Ok I have a theory but more interested in the science:

Say you're travelling at 60mph and break gradually, taking a longer time, or break moderately hard, or extremely hard and naturally taking a short time, which will cause the most wear to brakes pads and discs?

911p

2,361 posts

209 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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Pretty sure for performance cars braking hard but for a short time wears the brakes much less. Unsure about normal cars though.

V8Wagon

1,707 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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I find that a well timed passenger/driver simultaneous door opening creates enough drag to stop the car with no brake disc wear.

Kentish

15,169 posts

263 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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DSA advice is that you should brake gently but firmly at first and increase the effort as the car slows.

I generally do this but ease off as the cars slows (unless I need to brake firmly); this makes for smoother driving and less brake wear (in 26 years of driving, I've rarely needed to replace brakes or clutch).

SmilerFTM

832 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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I'd guess hard braking, try getting a rubber and running it lightly along a smooth surface over a couple of feet, then try pushing down on the rubber quite hard and move it over just a few inches. The hard pressing will remove far more rubber than the light, I know brake pads aren't made of rubber but I'm guessing the same principle applies no matter what the substance used is

CBR JGWRR

6,583 posts

178 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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It's getting damaged either way...

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd October 2012
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On track it is indeed best to brake hard for as short a time as possible. On the road it's best not to brake at all.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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The prize goes to Davepoth.

The rest of you didn't pay attention in your physics lessons!!

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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It's all about heat generation, so which ever creates less heat in the given situation.

On the road it's usually very soft braking.

RegMolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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It keeps on happening time and time again, so called car enthusiasts who don't know how to spell brake. Unbelievable!

ging84

9,548 posts

175 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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not sure how being able to spell help you be a car enthusiast, guy who used to run the garage down the road from me when i was a kid couldn't do invoices if he was working alone, because he genuinely couldn't read or write, but could fix almost anything on a car with a hammer and some fire

Tunku

7,703 posts

257 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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ging84 said:
not sure how being able to spell help you be a car enthusiast, guy who used to run the garage down the road from me when i was a kid couldn't do invoices if he was working alone, because he genuinely couldn't read or write, but could fix almost anything on a car with a hammer and some fire
Oh, give us a brake!


TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Hard braking gives less wear, it'll put more energy into flexing the tyres and that will take away energy instead of the discs.
The ultimate is to slam the brakes on and lock them up as soon as possible, you'll get almost no brake wear at all, but tyres won't last long.

Benbay001

5,892 posts

186 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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I believe its best to break hard. If you are breaking from a high speed 70ish, then it may be necessary to let off the pedal for a short brake so that you arent stopping faster than the rest of the traffic.
Be careful though, regular hard breaking may result in components of your car braking.

On a more serious note, the savings in brake pads will be spent on new tyres.

John145

2,746 posts

185 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Hint is in the description of how you're braking. ie, the harder you brake, the more you wear the components.

busta

4,504 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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If you are not on the throttle, your car is naturally decelerating anyway. The longer you take to brake, the more energy will be lost to all the other forces involved and there will be less work for the brakes to do.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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John145 said:
Hint is in the description of how you're braking. ie, the harder you brake, the more you wear the components.
Excellent, someone was paying attention at school! If you want to do something more quickly it takes more energy.



markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Kentish said:
DSA advice is that you should brake gently but firmly at first and increase the effort as the car slows.
When teaching advanced driving I explain that braking should be like a turd, soft at both ends and firm in the middle.

NWTony

3,002 posts

257 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
John145 said:
Hint is in the description of how you're braking. ie, the harder you brake, the more you wear the components.
Excellent, someone was paying attention at school! If you want to do something more quickly it takes more energy.
Oh really?


kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2012
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I'd guess that braking harder wears the components faster (if you're slowing down more gradually, a greater proportion of the energy will be lost to aerodynamic drag). However, I have been told in the past that prolonged light braking can cause "glazing" (not sure what it actually is) which reduces the coefficient of friction between the pad and disc.