Zero tolerance policy on speeding unveiled last night

[Major Fallout]

Just been sent this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-129780/New... I know its PH's favourite horror comic, but it sounds disturbing.

What can PH interpret?

[illmonkey]

It's not April is it?

[trickywoo]

How are they going to make up the lost income tax from all the people who will lose their jobs as a result?

Edited by trickywoo on Wednesday 24th October 10:48

[Horse Pop]

I was just looking at the TV thinking "I wonder what horrors they are sneaking under the radar while it's all Jimmy Saville on TV".

[Twincam16]

Major Fallout said:

Just been sent this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-129780/New... I know its PH's favourite horror comic, but it sounds disturbing.

What can PH interpret?

I'm not entirely sure.

This apparently relates to something 'buried' within some new Home office guidelines on driver sentencing unveiled last night. Interesting how only the Wail has apparently 'picked up' on it, given that the guidelines aren't even on the Home Office's online PDF database. The last driving-related guidelines of any sort on there relate to asylum-seekers driving on foreign licences, surely prime Wail territory.

I suspect that they might have done what they usually do and deliberately misinterpreted the kind of internal consultation document that never really sees the light of day.

If you think about it, the regime they're suggesting would border on being unpoliceable. How do you partially ban someone from driving so they can only commute to and from work but not drive anywhere else? How do you remove the deliberate margin for error to cater for variable speedometer readings when people will be driving the same cars with the same speedometers? The proposals seem completely unworkable to me.

Also, they can't even calibrate what they've already got properly. There's a speed indicator coming out of an NSL into a 30 just west of Newark that I drive past regularly. I've been through it at 40 before now and it's recorded my speed as being as low as 28.

[Laurel Green]

trickywoo said:

How are they going to make up the lost income tax from all the people who will their jobs as a result?

Actually, there is one bit of sensible news in the above mentioned:

Article said:

A 'weekend disqualification' system to let drivers use their cars for work.

Apart from that it is another step in the wrong direction. Get BIB back on the roads and stop the dangerous/uninsured/unlicensed drivers off the road.

[E30M3SE]

Laurel Green said:

Article said:

A 'weekend disqualification' system to let drivers use their cars for work.

Apart from that it is another step in the wrong direction. Get BIB back on the roads and stop the dangerous/uninsured/unlicensed drivers off the road.

Makes the incorrect assumption that everyone works Monday-Fruday, 9-5..........

[robinessex]

Absolutely typical of a government action that they know has no merit, so it's slid in the 'small print' hoping no one will spot it until it's too late. It also shows that government have no intention of reviewing current legislation results, and adjusting its effectiveness on the 'problem' it's supposed to solve. Speed cameras and the focus on speeding alone had miserably failed to have any effect on accidents, but still they push this rubbish method forward. Meanwhile, 94% of the accidents that occur will carry on happening, because 'speed' is not a contributary factor in these.

[Laurel Green]

E30M3SE said:

Makes the incorrect assumption that everyone works Monday-Fruday, 9-5..........

Of course but, at least it would be a step in the right direction.

[anonymous-user]

Major Fallout said:

Just been sent this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-129780/New... I know its PH's favourite horror comic, but it sounds disturbing.

What can PH interpret?

I was sent to speeding school for 32mph. Perhaps the answer to tighter enforcement is to drive below the limits?

[kambites]

I can't see it happening. There must be limits to even this government's stupidity.

I have nothing against hard enforcement of speed limits as such but for it to work speed limits needs to be sensible and in my experience very few are, these days.

[E30M3SE]

Laurel Green said:

Of course but, at least it would be a step in the right direction.

You really think so?

[Major Fallout]

yonex said:

I was sent to speeding school for 32mph. Perhaps the answer to tighter enforcement is to drive below the limits?

Sounds like the The Ministry of Love worked for you.

[Nuttah]

Grate news about time these people who insist on doing 32mph all the time got ban's, it boils my piss when i am doing 30mph and i see somebody doing 31/32 who do they think they are? putting everybody lives at risk like that.

[Captain Muppet]

yonex said:

I was sent to speeding school for 32mph. Perhaps the answer to tighter enforcement is to drive below the limits?

What? Enforcing laws is wrong! I need to break speed limits because...

...oh. I suppose "it's fun" doesn't count? No? Maybe I shouldn't speed then.

[long time lurker]

I was worried when I read the thread title.... then I saw dailymail mentioned and realised it's there usual scare reporting!

[Iceman82]

Seeing as it references Bob Ainsworth as the Home Office minister I think we can assume it's not happening anytime soon.

[aeropilot]

Laurel Green said:

Get BIB back on the roads and stop the dangerous/uninsured/unlicensed drivers off the road.

But that's more expensive than legislation/speed camers/[insert other bks excuse as you see fit].......which is why that oh so logical and sensible method won't be the one taken.

[V8Triumph]

"The 'margin for error' in current police guidelines, to allow for inaccurate speedometers, would be scrapped." I don't see how they can do this? I know for a fact that my speedo is no where near accurate, nor is it in most classic cars.

[jmorgan]

From the linked article

Daily wail said:

Mr Ainsworth said: 'The message is clear - dangerous driving kills and those found guilty can expect to be severely punished. We are not interested in penalising the law-abiding motorists, the vast majority of drivers. The measures will affect only those who commit offences.'

Be interesting to see if that was aimed at the speed that people drive. Wonder if they will approach poor standards that kill with the same zeal.