Body fat % - what is a good target?
Discussion
I had a DEXA scan the other day, and was chuffed to get a result of 7.3% total body fat (that's with me weighing 3kg more than when I was training hard last summer), having had a Tanita tell me I was over 11%. Then I read Tyler Hamilton's book - sub 4%! Nuts.
I was BMI 19.X when I was scanned, and I know as I get sub 19, I have to work really hard to keep the weight off. I've assumed it's because very low body fat isn't that good. What is a sensible target for a cyclist?
I was BMI 19.X when I was scanned, and I know as I get sub 19, I have to work really hard to keep the weight off. I've assumed it's because very low body fat isn't that good. What is a sensible target for a cyclist?
I have been sub 5 % a few times. But now, with a change of sports, this is no longer necessary or desired. Being at this level of leanness has various side effects, Anything between 8 and 15 percent is fine, all depends on you and how well you feel you function. If you function at your particular sport/lifestyle at a higher body fat, then by all means go higher.
I think anything under 4% is dangerous as the body needs a minimum amount of fat to function properly. I remember reading Nicolas Roaches book and he mentioned that he was about 6% body fat. Last time I looked I was around 14% which is okay I think. If your into single figures then you probably fall into the athlete category.
VerbalKent said:
I think anything under 4% is dangerous as the body needs a minimum amount of fat to function properly. I remember reading Nicolas Roaches book and he mentioned that he was about 6% body fat. Last time I looked I was around 14% which is okay I think. If your into single figures then you probably fall into the athlete category.
I'm 8% and I'm no athlete I'm just s
t at eating 
swerni said:
Jayfish said:
VerbalKent said:
I think anything under 4% is dangerous as the body needs a minimum amount of fat to function properly. I remember reading Nicolas Roaches book and he mentioned that he was about 6% body fat. Last time I looked I was around 14% which is okay I think. If your into single figures then you probably fall into the athlete category.
I'm 8% and I'm no athlete I'm just s
t at eating 


Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend
If you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
If you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
No, definitely not more ripped than our oily friend. The ultrasound I had done said there was about 6mm of sub-cutaneous fat around my abdomen, so if there was something there, it should show. But there's not. The dexa showed that I have more gynoid (bottom) than android (top) fat, which probably explains why a couple of colleagues came out with ~3mm sub cut abdomen fat, but higher total body fat %.
Looking at those pictures, I'm definitely leaner than the 10-12% picture, but nothing like that 7% picture.
I've taken on another cyclist for weight loss coaching to see if the techniques I've used are useful for others. It'll be interesting to see if it works for them.
Looking at those pictures, I'm definitely leaner than the 10-12% picture, but nothing like that 7% picture.
I've taken on another cyclist for weight loss coaching to see if the techniques I've used are useful for others. It'll be interesting to see if it works for them.
burriana said:
Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend
If you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
With the greatest respect, using photographic examples is pure bIf you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
ks. Google TOFI. Measuring body fat really needs to be done using MRI.Here's a summary though http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2006/dec/10/medi...
rhinochopig said:
burriana said:
Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend
If you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
With the greatest respect, using photographic examples is pure bIf you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
ks.
ks". I know from experience that someone who has a body fat of only 7% is going to look pretty damned ripped, whereas someone at around 12-14% will look toned but not with prominent abs showing. These photographs seem to mirror that "rough" guide and are a simple quick reference.If you want definitive then yes, you have to have it done in a proper scientific way by someone who knows what they are doing.
burriana said:
rhinochopig said:
burriana said:
Everyone is different and it is all subjective but, as ever, Google is your friend
If you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
With the greatest respect, using photographic examples is pure bIf you look at these these photographic examples
at 7% you are presumably more ripped than Peter Andre? I am, from these shots, at the 15% mark but trying to get to 12%. Having said that, when I was going to the gym regularly, I had my body fat measured at 12%... and I didn't have abs like that!
ks.
ks". I know from experience that someone who has a body fat of only 7% is going to look pretty damned ripped, whereas someone at around 12-14% will look toned but not with prominent abs showing. These photographs seem to mirror that "rough" guide and are a simple quick reference.If you want definitive then yes, you have to have it done in a proper scientific way by someone who knows what they are doing.
ks' was probably a bit strong. But I would caution the use of photos even as a guide as the example you give is not always the case. It depends on your muskuloskeletal system, i.e. ectormorphic, mesomorphic, or endomorphic.
I can give you a practical example, when I was rowing seriously, I was around the 85-90 kilo weight (for 6'5") and had a resting HR of <40 and a max of 210 and a BF% of around 10%. You could see every sinew and muscle fibre in my legs and arms and yet my stomach, because I have a huge rib case (pigeon/barrel chested), never ever showed a 6 pack - just two strips of muscle - and this is despite doing thousands of sit-ups of all types. Most of my 'excess' fat seemed to be stored around my stomach. To look at those pics my stomach would have put me at the 20-25% level - or 100% out.
Hell! < 40bpm is seriously healthy! The lowest I ever got when I was racing was mid-50s.
Yours is a very specific situation and I know what you mean about abs. I do 200 sit-ups a day mixed between upper, lower and side and the abs are just starting to show slightly.
As a rule of thumb, to answer the original question what is a good body fat %. very generally I would say that (to a normal bloke): 15% is pretty good - 12% is very good - and anything in single figures is getting towards ripped status and will make most of the other blokes on the beach jealous!
Yours is a very specific situation and I know what you mean about abs. I do 200 sit-ups a day mixed between upper, lower and side and the abs are just starting to show slightly.
As a rule of thumb, to answer the original question what is a good body fat %. very generally I would say that (to a normal bloke): 15% is pretty good - 12% is very good - and anything in single figures is getting towards ripped status and will make most of the other blokes on the beach jealous!

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