Track day Reliability
Discussion
Okay guys as the time draws closer for me to be in the position to purchase a 3R. I have been lurking about on the forum and basically trying to gain as much information as possible. Now I understand people say that if you plan to do track days then be prepared to open your wallet. I'm just wondering how true this statement is, it would appear some people have not had issued on track where as others have never had a track day without incident? I would like to track the Noble and understand this will cost but not sure how much people are really talking about when they say 'open your wallet' lol
Are the problems generally small cost fixes or are we talking major mechanical issues which can leave you stranded at a track?
Thanks for your comments, I did try a search but there seemed to be so much information to sift through!
Cheers
Ross
Are the problems generally small cost fixes or are we talking major mechanical issues which can leave you stranded at a track?
Thanks for your comments, I did try a search but there seemed to be so much information to sift through!
Cheers
Ross
Broke an upright at cadwell, probably from taking too much kerb at Park. Make sure yours have the steel sleeves fitted. Tyres 2-3mm per day depending on compound and driving style, few tanks of fuel.
Track sump is a must. Try to keep the car cool or you'll lose power - do a few laps at a time. I think this is where the big money has been spent, my car can do 3 laps but the big boys with big cooling and big power can do more.
Track work though by definition is accelerated wear. You tend to always be flat out at max lateral acceleration (the car or you) so things will tend to have a harder life and wear out. Most people have found most things now so it's just a matter of finding out if your car has the good bits fitted or not!
Nobles do feel a lot better than normal cars though, my puma felt like it's properly killed it after a track day. The Noble shrugged it off and drove home.
Track sump is a must. Try to keep the car cool or you'll lose power - do a few laps at a time. I think this is where the big money has been spent, my car can do 3 laps but the big boys with big cooling and big power can do more.
Track work though by definition is accelerated wear. You tend to always be flat out at max lateral acceleration (the car or you) so things will tend to have a harder life and wear out. Most people have found most things now so it's just a matter of finding out if your car has the good bits fitted or not!
Nobles do feel a lot better than normal cars though, my puma felt like it's properly killed it after a track day. The Noble shrugged it off and drove home.
Edited by Chapppers on Tuesday 30th October 15:15
Lucozade said:
It's taken me 2 years and £17K to get to a reasonably stable state regarding my 3R. Everytime I went for an upgrade for track use something went wrong and needed tweaking.
I went for better gear change, better brakes, uprated suspension and a small increase in power.
Did you spend any money upgrading yourself too during that time?I went for better gear change, better brakes, uprated suspension and a small increase in power.
Edited by Chapppers on Tuesday 30th October 15:44
We have done 3 noble group track days... each time someone has gone home on a trailor, but in truth its ususally the high power ones and we are still developing these to be reliable and there were a lot of us on track and they do run on average a lot of power more than stock.
There are a few mods that MUST be done for track on the orginal GT0 and GT03's... 3r's should have most of these mods, but in truth the M400 will be the best off the shelf car for track work.
Lets be clear, it wont be as reliable on track as an M3 or a porsche GT3... but it wont be a money pit on track unless you get the mod bug... however resistance is almost always futile!
There are a few mods that MUST be done for track on the orginal GT0 and GT03's... 3r's should have most of these mods, but in truth the M400 will be the best off the shelf car for track work.
Lets be clear, it wont be as reliable on track as an M3 or a porsche GT3... but it wont be a money pit on track unless you get the mod bug... however resistance is almost always futile!
Hi Ross , welcome to the forum , in std form a 3R should be pretty good on track and as long as there is a track day sump and the car is properly serviced you should not have any major issues .
Exspense generaly starts when you decide to push the power up or generaly decide to do lots more track work !! the car is very adictive on track and the chasis can cope with plenty more power so after a few trips most people want more power and so it begins
its also very easy to upgrade areas of the car so this can add to the fun of ownership !!
we had 25 odd Nobles on track at Rockingham this year on a hot day only a pulley failure ment everyone did not drive home !!!
Tux
Exspense generaly starts when you decide to push the power up or generaly decide to do lots more track work !! the car is very adictive on track and the chasis can cope with plenty more power so after a few trips most people want more power and so it begins
its also very easy to upgrade areas of the car so this can add to the fun of ownership !!
we had 25 odd Nobles on track at Rockingham this year on a hot day only a pulley failure ment everyone did not drive home !!!
Tux
Lucozade said:
Lol it's definately on my list of things to do
£17k Craig? Balls to that!Mine has had a lot less spent on it (albeit the last big Noble track day mine was the only one to go home on a truck! - but it was a small issue that was known about before..) and most of the time loves tracking.
Have to admit, the upgrades for me seem to be as a result of boring issues like water pipes, hub nuts, brake fluid, small pulley bearings and things like that giving up. I reckon that is age more than anything.
Better brakes, vastly improved cooling, small power increase and good tyres are about as far as I have gone.
Driver experience counts for way more than 500bhp! doesn't it Craig?
(p.s. sorry for teasing)
Cheers for the responses guys! So generally a standard 3R will be fairly reliable on track? I kinda fancied one around 420 bhp lol what sort of power levels does reliability become an issue?
Also another question for the guys who did the ring and spa this year, where did you put all your stuff??! Tools jacks etc, there doesn't seem to be much space for anything in the Noble lol
Also another question for the guys who did the ring and spa this year, where did you put all your stuff??! Tools jacks etc, there doesn't seem to be much space for anything in the Noble lol
LazyRoss18 said:
Cheers for the responses guys! So generally a standard 3R will be fairly reliable on track? I kinda fancied one around 420 bhp lol what sort of power levels does reliability become an issue?
Also another question for the guys who did the ring and spa this year, where did you put all your stuff??! Tools jacks etc, there doesn't seem to be much space for anything in the Noble lol
Seriously though, make the car reliable, forget the fancy bits and get some tuition days. See what really makes you faster. Also another question for the guys who did the ring and spa this year, where did you put all your stuff??! Tools jacks etc, there doesn't seem to be much space for anything in the Noble lol
Edited by Chapppers on Tuesday 30th October 19:46
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