please help my son.
please help my son.
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TOV!E

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2,016 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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My son has a bit of a problem, he has a budget of £30k, and would like to know if it would be better to buy a 996tt or a 997cs.He just cant make up his mind, what would you experts choose......?????????????????

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

312 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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many many posts on this if you search. Really depends on what he wants.

On an average day unless really pressing on there isnt much difference in performance. Once you push the go pedal though the TT is streets ahead.

The 997 will be a nicer place to be, a whole lot more modern, but could be subject to RMS issues which the Turbo won't.

As I said, do a search and there's loads of material on this but it will come down to personal preference, he should go and drive both.

But nothing will replace "the mental" when the Turbos come on song in the TT so be aware from the outset, that can be addictive.

Both nice cars and a nice choice to have.

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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996 turbo (mezger) v 997 c2 (fudge).




JapFreak786

1,814 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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997 be nicer place to sit than a 996 TT but the 996 TT is as said above, mental on boost! I'm guessing he wants a fair bit of power than 996 TT

Junior Bianno

1,400 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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One other thing to consider is that the 996TT is probably approaching the bottom of its depreciation curve, whereas the 997 will continue to go down..eventually no doubt to current 996 values. Both great cars, but there are a LOT more 997 C2Ss out there...

Rockster

1,515 posts

190 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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TOV!E said:
My son has a bit of a problem, he has a budget of £30k, and would like to know if it would be better to buy a 996tt or a 997cs.He just cant make up his mind, what would you experts choose......?????????????????
The cost of one of these cars is not its purchase price alone, it is the purchase price along with registration/taxes, insurance, and running and servicing costs.

Even though one can probably buy a good Turbo for what you son has to spend, the cars when new cost around 3 or 4 times that much money. For example: My 03 Turbo cost new $120K. I bought it used in 09 with around 10K miles on it for less than half that.

But it still costs like a $120K car to service and prices to service/repair these cars have not come down since then.

The general rule is to buy the best car you can find and afford. Another general rule is newer is always better. Thus all other things being equal (and I realize they are not, one car being a Turbo, the other not a Turbo) the 997cs would probably be the car of choice.

Best advice I can offer is to test drive both examples and determine which car offers the better experience.

Set aside 10% of the car's purchase price to have in case an issue crops up.

Sincerely,

Rockster.

fastgerman

2,001 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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keep it lit said:
996 turbo (mezger) v 997 c2 (fudge).
996tt costs more to maintain than a 997 S. see Hartech's maintenance plan costs for evidence

boobles

15,251 posts

245 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Neither. Tell him to buy an Exige!

keep it lit

3,388 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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fastgerman said:
996tt costs more to maintain than a 997 S. see Hartech's maintenance plan costs for evidence
ask Baz how many Mezger units they have rebuilt....?

Chrisp5782

630 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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TOV!E said:
My son has a bit of a problem, he has a budget of £30k, and would like to know if it would be better to buy a 996tt or a 997cs.He just cant make up his mind, what would you experts choose......?????????????????
I know I'll get told to shut up (and I know that's what you'll write)but....there is no 996TT! This is an American term and has no basis!

I know it's a pedantic point but it's annoying, we'll be calling the front trunk on a Cayman a "frunk" like the yanks if we don't stop now!!!!

hurl

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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I asked the same question (poll) some time ago.

(more out of interest than anything else, as I knew that I was going for a turbo)


The only thing the 997 had going for it was that it had the new interior, but now that the 991 is out, it can't claim that any longer. Also, some prefer the lights of the 997, but in the half-light or in the dark, the 997 can easily be mistaken for a modern Mini (or worse, the new bettle hehe ).
996 (facelift) lights all the way.


Very few people have a Carrera poster on their wall (2.7 RS excepted perhaps), but how many of us had a 911 turbo on our walls?

The 997 Carrera's perfomance is adequate.
The 996 turbo's perfomance is epic.



No contest in my mind.

p.s. My comments could be viewed as those of a biased owner, but looking at it another way, I also had the same choice, but I put my money where my mouth was.

TOV!E

Original Poster:

2,016 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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Many Many Thanks, 996 TT it is then....

SEE YA

3,522 posts

275 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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SEE YA said:
What are his taste, in 911's water cooled or air?
Also running cost, handy with a set of spanners maybe?
Is it to enjoy for a short time or long term car?

I know other models are stated in the start of this topic.
He may consider other models as well then?

hugedouche

62 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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996 turbo if its all about the power, but I reckon a 997 C2S is a better place to be..more modern design, better interior, more than fast enough most of the time. Or save up a bit longer and get a 997 turbo...now youre talking, looking at the classifieds not that far off!

shantybeater

1,202 posts

199 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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I had the same predicament and went for the 996T, cannot tell you how happy I am with my choice!

PGN 500sl

3,047 posts

196 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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the Turbo.

Anyday. Its a Porsche Turbo. cloud9

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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hugedouche said:
997 C2S is ...... more than fast enough most of the time.
I disagree. In my part of the world, there are no dual carriageways/motorways and all roads are single carriageway. I would say at least 50% of the time I use the extra performance of the turbo (normally in overtaking).

monthefish

20,467 posts

261 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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PGN 500sl said:
Anyday. Its a Porsche Turbo. cloud9
[marks and spencer voice]
Not just any Porsche Turbo, but a Porsche 911 turbo
[/marks and spencer voice]
smile

RiccardoG

1,758 posts

302 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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monthefish said:
The only thing the 997 had going for it was that it had the new interior, but now that the 991 is out, it can't claim that any longer. Also, some prefer the lights of the 997, but in the half-light or in the dark, the 997 can easily be mistaken for a modern Mini (or worse, the new bettle hehe ).
996 (facelift) lights all the way.
Yup, and in the full pitch dark the 997 can also be confused with a bus... Your point being?

I went for 997 as I preferred the looks mostly (and, not being too biased, also still prefer them to the 991 until I get used to its 'bulky' shape). However, inevitably as with any model upgrade, there are quite a few improvements from the 996 to the 997.

A good video summarising these is the 'Best Motoring' one (clicky here)


hugedouche

62 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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monthefish said:
hugedouche said:
997 C2S is ...... more than fast enough most of the time.
I disagree. In my part of the world, there are no dual carriageways/motorways and all roads are single carriageway. I would say at least 50% of the time I use the extra performance of the turbo (normally in overtaking).
it depends on what you're overtaking! the c2s has a lovely lump of torque that makes it a weapon on As and Bs. I don't doudt that the 996 turbo is epic in those conditions also but I reckon a c2s wouldn't be that far behind.