Cars you never see in games ?

[J4CKO]

Having just got Forza Horizon, made me think, how come that in all the racing games avaialble across all formats you get stuff like Gumpert Apollo's and Panoz Esperante's that most of us will never see, let alone drive but you never get a MK2 Escort, a Capri of any description or say a Rover SD1 ?

We get all manner of Muscle cars, every variant of Impreza ever and even a Fiat 500 but no Chevette HSR, no Jag XJ12, no Sweeney style Granada and no Opel Manta GTE !

[gambisk]

I was thinking about this too when trying to buy a V70 in forza 4 the other week. But then I remembered that the target market for these games is america. Hence the vast amount of american muscle cars and jap tuners, both of which are very popular state side. The european car selection is generally the top end exotica like ferraris and lambos that the US audience aspire to and see the movie stars etc driving about in.

Most americans probably are unaware of the escort.

[fyfe]

Check out rFactorcentral - specifically the "Historic GT & Touring Cars" addin. There's plenty of videos on Youtube showing the cars involved.

Edit: I think this is the latest list of cars ingame with Historic GT but you can also get others that add in the Jaguar and Rover.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_US&am...

Edited by fyfe on Monday 5th November 14:02

Edited by fyfe on Monday 5th November 14:03

[J4CKO]

Yep, was kind of thinking that way but surely there is a market for a car pack for us Englanders.

Would sell well over here and might even bring some awareness of our back catalog to the US audience, quite a lot of classic British stuff made its way over there.

lets start a would like to see list

Austin Healey
MGB
Maestro Turbo
Lotus Cortina
Capri Injection
Vauxhall Firenza/Magnum
RS2000
RS1800
Fiesta XR2
Fiesta RS Turbo
Escort RS Turbo
Rover 800 Vitesse
MG ZT V8
Rover BRM
Austin Princess (for the comedy aspect)
Cavalier SRI 130
Sierra XR4i
Escort XR3i
Escort RS Turbo
RS Turbo
Clio Williams
205 GTI 1.9
Golf (Not Rabbit) GTI
Old Scirocco
Porsche 924/944
850 T5

I like the idea of cars we have all owned, dont even have to be any good, dont need to be based on expensive cars, I can imagine a drunken rampage in Morris Ital's with 300 bhp being really quite good fun and in the online games it would avoif the american teenagers playing bumper cars with Enzo's.

Edited by J4CKO on Monday 5th November 14:07

[ian_c_uk]

(okay, not a V70, but close!)

[CampDavid]

Gran Tourismo 2 had an insane amount of cars in it, old as hell now though

[ian_c_uk]

J4CKO said:

Yep, was kind of thinking that way but surely there is a market for a car pack for us Englanders.

Would sell well over here and might even bring some awareness of our back catalog to the US audience, quite a lot of classic British stuff made its way over there.

lets start a would like to see list


Lotus Cortina

[ian_c_uk]

J4CKO said:

Yep, was kind of thinking that way but surely there is a market for a car pack for us Englanders.

Would sell well over here and might even bring some awareness of our back catalog to the US audience, quite a lot of classic British stuff made its way over there.

lets start a would like to see list

Austin Healey

[ian_c_uk]

That'll do for now. Suffice to say there are some "interesting" things out there.

[J4CKO]

Ian, they look great, cant say I have seen them in Forza 4, how do you get them ?

[NateWM]

Honda Accord Type-R - Has the iconic H22 VTEC engine, a fantastic chassis which coupled with the LSD, means it can really hold its own in the corners. They seem to have every other Type R, so why not include the true underdog?

Sapphire Cosworth - The 3DR and EsCos get included, so why not have the more subtle Saffy?

I agree that a pack of cars sold here in the UK would be amazing. Escort/Fiesta RST's, Renault 5 GTT, Astra GTE....Heavenly!

[mat777]

Can I suggest you all buy a copy of GT legends.......


Austin Healeys, original Minis, Lotus Cortinas etc abound

[MarkRSi]

Morris Minor?

[OllieC]

fyfe said:

Check out rFactorcentral - specifically the "Historic GT & Touring Cars" addin. There's plenty of videos on Youtube showing the cars involved.

Edit: I think this is the latest list of cars ingame with Historic GT but you can also get others that add in the Jaguar and Rover.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?hl=en_US&am...

Edited by fyfe on Monday 5th November 14:02

Edited by fyfe on Monday 5th November 14:03

This is the beauty of games like Rfactor, which allow the gaming community to build their own cars (with varying quality !)

I was part of the team that made a 1980s saloon series, Rover SD1, BMW 635, Sierra Cosworth, etc. These cars are a bit dated graphically now, but I dont know of an SD1 or Escort rs turbo in another game for example

[scarble]

My GT5 missing cars list:


D-Type
Viggen
Turbo-X
99 Turbo S complete with water injection puhleease.
ginetta f400
ford cosworths
fastback mustang
ferrari dino
nissan 300zx race car
koenigseggs
AlfaRomeo montreal
AlfaRomeo gtv6
AlfaRomeo SZ
Iso Grifo Series II 7 Litri
VXR8 Bathurst S
TVR Sagaris
testerossa (koenig wideboy twin turbo)
f50
Diablo road car (SE30? None of this poxy AWD VT stuff!)
holden screamy thingy << oops.. I think I mean VRX8-BS? Clearly there is no order to this list!
db4
db5
DBS/V8
Bulldog (must have working headlight flap or I'll @$!(% sue)
250GTO
bentley turbo R
bentley conintenal
phaeton
aerial atom
BAC Mono (snigger)
paris-dakar trucks (and the road legal dakar touraeg concept?)
noble M600
all of the nobles
Gilbern (Welsh cars are under-represented! biggrin ... maybe best to keep it that way though frown)
skoda octavia vr
quattro rally car
Audi R18
gumpert
that porsche rally car frown
Miura Roadster
Ford GTX1
Peugeot 908 RC (http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z11931/Peugeot-908-RC.aspx)
Mercedes-CLS
BMW M6 (Both (oh there's a new one since I made this list, not that bland pos though, the other two))
BMW 850 (E31)
BMW M1
BMW 1M
Caterham??
Ascari?
DRM cars (Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft), Capri, M1, Beta Montecarlo
Warhol M1
Capri
Manta
Granada
MK2 Jaaag
Calibra road car!
MK1 Stagea
Metro 6R4 (should tune to same power output as XJ220 cos it's the same engine wink)
Lancia Beta Montecarlo
Lancia 037
Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
XJ220S
TS030
F-Type
That other concept, even if it has a daft powertrain, at least it's probably happening, unlike that daft Citroen (C-71?)
Volvo S60 PPC
Impul Cedric
guess the unpopular references

Primer Grey Chevy 150
1957 Jagwarr Roadster
450SEL 6.9
275GTB
Porsche 500 Spyder (#@!& you Porsche and your exlusive rights you money grabbing €@$^@%&$)

Ford racing PUMRAWR
Maserati MC12
Maserati Quatroporte
7 Series
W219 CLS 63 AMG
FB RX-7 (You may as well..)
FC RX-7 With MOAR POWER and lots of ROARY ROTARY GOODNESS
De-Tomasos! (I just can't get you outta my head, boy your loving is all I think about..)
Citroen SM (maybe a breadvan?)
P4/5
Vectors
Did I mention the Metro 6R4 yet?
Incidentally Group B cars should be tunable north of 700 (as has been done with many of them)
We could use some modern rally cross cars too.. and some rally cross tracks
Opel/Vauxhall Monza GSE (4WD BRIXMIS spy car?)
Renault A110-50 Concept
Vaillant Le Mans 61, Grand Défi, GT-X1, VS 71 (someone got a carography?)

tuners:
Roger Clark Impreza.
Litchfield Type 25
Cosworth CS400
Greg Luts Ford GT Twin Turbo
Top Secret Supra
Top Secret Skyline


design a car competition - winning car added to game :3

It gets a bit.. rambly in places, sorry about that.

[y2blade]

J4CKO said:

Yep, was kind of thinking that way but surely there is a market for a car pack for us Englanders.

Would sell well over here and might even bring some awareness of our back catalog to the US audience, quite a lot of classic British stuff made its way over there.

lets start a would like to see list

Austin Healey
MGB
Maestro Turbo
Lotus Cortina
Capri Injection
Vauxhall Firenza/Magnum
RS2000
RS1800
Fiesta XR2
Fiesta RS Turbo
Escort RS Turbo
Rover 800 Vitesse
MG ZT V8
Rover BRM
Austin Princess (for the comedy aspect)
Cavalier SRI 130
Sierra XR4i
Escort XR3i
Escort RS Turbo
RS Turbo
Clio Williams
205 GTI 1.9
Golf (Not Rabbit) GTI
Old Scirocco
Porsche 924/944
850 T5

I like the idea of cars we have all owned, dont even have to be any good, dont need to be based on expensive cars, I can imagine a drunken rampage in Morris Ital's with 300 bhp being really quite good fun and in the online games it would avoif the american teenagers playing bumper cars with Enzo's.

Edited by J4CKO on Monday 5th November 14:07

A few of those^^^ are in Forza4/GT5/ForzaHorizon already.

[TomN94]

Rolls Royce Phantom. Would love to waft around Colorado in one.

[SlipStream77]

Fyfe has already mentioned the 'Historix' GT mod for rFactor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUUK8VHkNs

There's also a touring car legends mod, we used these in the PH league back in 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_aR7523K-0

[Hoofy]

I'd like to see a Mk3 Golf Cabriolet just so that I can bugger about with it to see what is daft and possible.

[dudleybloke]

bristol.