Which diesel 4x4/AWD car
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Another what car!
Reqs:
4x4 or AWD - essential
Diesel - nearly essential
Estate
Under 4k, pref around 3k.
40mpg would be nice
Have heard mixed things about Audi Quattros and Volvo AWD systems? Octavia 4x4 looks good, but I can't find one. Passat also looks OK, but hard to find too. Golf or A3 are possibles, but could be a bit small. Could also consider a small off/soft-roader, but I'm not a huge fan!
Is there anything that I'm missing, or does anyone have any experience of any of the above?
Cheers!
Reqs:
4x4 or AWD - essential
Diesel - nearly essential
Estate
Under 4k, pref around 3k.
40mpg would be nice
Have heard mixed things about Audi Quattros and Volvo AWD systems? Octavia 4x4 looks good, but I can't find one. Passat also looks OK, but hard to find too. Golf or A3 are possibles, but could be a bit small. Could also consider a small off/soft-roader, but I'm not a huge fan!
Is there anything that I'm missing, or does anyone have any experience of any of the above?
Cheers!
Allroad 2.5 TDi Quattro. Cheap, well equipped, nice place to be. Unfortunately a rather agricultural engine but at this price point you don't really have position to complain. Off-roads like a Range Rover, takes corners like an S6- well, as long as the air suspension is in working order. Expect 35mpg, but that's the real-world price you pay for all wheel drive. Utterly classless too. I'd also suggest things like the Subaru Legacy but I don't think there are any half-decent diesels even approaching this kind of budget, and the petrol engines are notoriously thirsty.
Ignore Mpg and look at Subarus?
Cheaper than diesels, less to go wrong, reliable and rugged.
Legacies or impreza wagons would work.
For example: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Legacy outback, 2004 2.5 non turbo 92k miles. £3400.
£500 pays for a lot of fuel with a 10mpg differential.
I think you're going to have a hard time finding a reliable £3k 40mpg 4x4, to be honest.
Cheaper than diesels, less to go wrong, reliable and rugged.
Legacies or impreza wagons would work.
For example: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...
Legacy outback, 2004 2.5 non turbo 92k miles. £3400.
£500 pays for a lot of fuel with a 10mpg differential.
I think you're going to have a hard time finding a reliable £3k 40mpg 4x4, to be honest.
Edited by WeirdNeville on Tuesday 6th November 00:53
You will get some within your budget. Look on Autotrader etc. They seem to start with the Renault Scenic 4x4, from about £1500 upwards, although by the time you get to £4k you might find other things like Passats and Audi's.
Remove the estate bit and a Panda 4x4 would fit. The new ones are getting quite good reviews.
Get rid of the MPG and you have Disco/Defenders within price.
Either that or up your budget!
Remove the estate bit and a Panda 4x4 would fit. The new ones are getting quite good reviews.
Get rid of the MPG and you have Disco/Defenders within price.
Either that or up your budget!
ManOpener said:
Allroad 2.5 TDi Quattro. Cheap, well equipped, nice place to be. Unfortunately a rather agricultural engine but at this price point you don't really have position to complain. Off-roads like a Range Rover, takes corners like an S6- well, as long as the air suspension is in working order. Expect 35mpg, but that's the real-world price you pay for all wheel drive. Utterly classless too. I'd also suggest things like the Subaru Legacy but I don't think there are any half-decent diesels even approaching this kind of budget, and the petrol engines are notoriously thirsty.
These look somewhat of a bargain, but isn't the air suspension a major issue? I fancied one of these last year but a quick bit of searching on here and other forums came up with some alarming costs in relation to the value of the car.sjj84 said:
ManOpener said:
Allroad 2.5 TDi Quattro. Cheap, well equipped, nice place to be. Unfortunately a rather agricultural engine but at this price point you don't really have position to complain. Off-roads like a Range Rover, takes corners like an S6- well, as long as the air suspension is in working order. Expect 35mpg, but that's the real-world price you pay for all wheel drive. Utterly classless too. I'd also suggest things like the Subaru Legacy but I don't think there are any half-decent diesels even approaching this kind of budget, and the petrol engines are notoriously thirsty.
These look somewhat of a bargain, but isn't the air suspension a major issue? I fancied one of these last year but a quick bit of searching on here and other forums came up with some alarming costs in relation to the value of the car.That's the problem, a £3k one will already be shagged, a £6k one is waiting to do your wallet a major dis-service.
At the risk of being shot down in flames, I'm loving the wife's XJ-series Jeep Cherokee Sport. Cheap as chips, properly rugged, and a classic in the eyes of some. We manage about 34mpg going by the display, but I'll reliably informed that this is US mpg, so closer to 40 in old money.
You might be able to haggle this Octavia down to 4k:
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
We had an Audi A4 Tdi 110 quattro. (B5? - 1998 vintage). Torsen diff rather than the haldex on golf/passat/octavia/etc and so more reliable/lower cost(doesn't need haldex oil changes).
Never did less than 40mpg - usually near 50mpg.
Allow for new suspension arms on a regular basis, and the timing belt+water pump replacement is a bit of a pain.
I presume the later model is much the same? Easily under £3K and the engines last forever (use the correct oil if you get a PD engine)
Never did less than 40mpg - usually near 50mpg.
Allow for new suspension arms on a regular basis, and the timing belt+water pump replacement is a bit of a pain.
I presume the later model is much the same? Easily under £3K and the engines last forever (use the correct oil if you get a PD engine)
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