The tip run
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Kentish

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264 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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So you decide to have a pick-up for all those chores like taking rubbish to the tip, bringing home the Xmas tree, getting rid of the Xmas tree, collecting materials for those home and garden projects and generally a great workhorse for the family and keeps you mobile during winter too. Having this also saves getting your car and it's nice interior from getting destroyed.

Then they change the rules at the tip and you can't even take an old fence panel there because you choose to drive a car that does not conform. It's no bigger than a big estate car but one of those is allowed in and not only that; it would be allowed to tow a 6'8" trailer behind it.

Their rationale is that pick-up trucks are dangerous to the public. And a car driven by a private person who reverses their trailer once in a blue moon isn't?

Arrrgh, beggars belief!

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Turn up and do it anyway? Ignore the jobsworths and get on with your life, where you can.

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I always visit the tip using a motorcycle stunt team in a reverse pyramid formation. Just because I can. wink

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Krikkit said:
Turn up and do it anyway? Ignore the jobsworths and get on with your life, where you can.
Nope, guy at the gate let me in but I got jumped on immediately and turned away.

Plenty of lay-by's around I guess for those who get pee'd off with the bureaucracy!

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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LuS1fer said:
I always visit the tip using a motorcycle stunt team in a reverse pyramid formation. Just because I can. wink
rofl

I like your style biggrin

kambites

71,482 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I thought the reason for limiting vehicles like that was to stop companies using unmarked commercial vehicles for it?

bicycleshorts

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191 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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My Grandad had a sofa he needed rid of, the council were going to charge him circa £50 to collect it so my Dad said he'd take it to the tip on the trailer.

When we showed up we were told we weren't allowed in with the trailer as it was too big. Fine, we'll park outside and walk in with the couch, it was only about 10 feet from the road outside to the section of the tip we needed. As we got to the gate, the guy came out again and said we weren't allowed in on foot, only cars were allowed through the gate. fkS SAKE. So we chucked it half in the boot of the vectra, with it dangling out and me holding onto it in the rear. This was apparently completely safe, and we were allowed to get rid of it.

We did toy with some other ideas, one being towing it on a really long strap trying to swing it around and take out his little post.

Edited by bicycleshorts on Tuesday 6th November 10:39

kambites

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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doogz said:
kambites said:
I thought the reason for limiting vehicles like that was to stop companies using unmarked commercial vehicles for it?
Surely, (Unless I'm being dim, which is highly probable) a quick shufti at the tax disc would answer that question though?
Nothing stops a company from having a privately registered van/pickup for precisely that use, though.

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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kambites said:
doogz said:
kambites said:
I thought the reason for limiting vehicles like that was to stop companies using unmarked commercial vehicles for it?
Surely, (Unless I'm being dim, which is highly probable) a quick shufti at the tax disc would answer that question though?
Nothing stops a company from having a privately registered van/pickup for precisely that use, though.
Do commercial vehicles pay less road tax than the same type of vehicle that is owned privately?

kambites

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Kentish said:
Do commercial vehicles pay less road tax than the same type of vehicle that is owned privately?
I have no idea, why?

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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kambites said:
I have no idea, why?
Oh, it is sort of implied in the posts above - just curious.

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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I guess everything around us is part of the carbon cycle; no harm done really if it finds it's way into some woodland to quietly rot away wink

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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doogz said:
Kentish said:
kambites said:
I have no idea, why?
Oh, it is sort of implied in the posts above - just curious.
They say something different on them. Can't quite remember, been a couple of years since I had one, and my 'agricultural' one is different again, but a 'car' says something like "PLG" on it. A commercial vehicle says something else.
Oh OK, but I think that is just the vehicle classification thing. Vans & pick-ups being classified as "light goods" irrespective of whether they are privately owned or not.

jbi

12,700 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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so what's to stop an unscrupulous trader simply swapping his transit connect for a galaxy with the seats removed/folded?

And more to the point... there are many, many people with pick-up's as their family car. Why should they be penalised?

kambites

71,482 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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jbi said:
so what's to stop an unscrupulous trader simply swapping his transit connect for a galaxy with the seats removed/folded?
Nothing except for the fact it will cost more to run because the suspension isn't designed for constant heavy haulage. I suppose they have to draw the line somewhere - nowhere will be perfect for everyone.

Banning pickups does seem a bit harsh though, since quite a few people use them as only cars.

steveo3002

11,207 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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mad thing is if you hoof it in the hedge /layby the council will send 2 blokes out to clear it up

not that i flytip

Kentish

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Tuesday 6th November 2012
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kambites said:
jbi said:
so what's to stop an unscrupulous trader simply swapping his transit connect for a galaxy with the seats removed/folded?
Nothing except for the fact it will cost more to run because the suspension isn't designed for constant heavy haulage. I suppose they have to draw the line somewhere - nowhere will be perfect for everyone.

Banning pickups does seem a bit harsh though, since quite a few people use them as only cars.
I was going to run mine as my only car but I guess I'll have to keep the car as well now.

Doing my bit for the environment rolleyes

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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kambites said:
Banning pickups does seem a bit harsh though, since quite a few people use them as only cars.
Isn't that for some tax loophole as well though?

kambites

71,482 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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LuS1fer said:
kambites said:
Banning pickups does seem a bit harsh though, since quite a few people use them as only cars.
Isn't that for some tax loophole as well though?
My uncle (who's a farmer) runs a crew-cab pickup as his only vehicle because he needs to cart stuff around in it. Dunno what it costs him to tax, though.

Freakuk

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181 months

Tuesday 6th November 2012
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Used to get this when I raced, I had a LWB sprinter but it was converted into a motorhome/race truck complete with TV/PS2, Shower, toilet, cooker, fridge, microwave, double bed etc, they refused to let me in saying it was a commercial vehicle which I can see but then I showed them the interior they continued to argue and one jobsworth asked to see the toilet/shower to prove it was indeed a motorhome, I opened the door to which he looked amazed.. then asked where the water tank was so proceeded to show him not one but two 200 litre water tanks, eventually he let me in