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I today had the misfortune of having to hire a car from one of the major rental companies. At short notice I ended up with an Astra. However, upon final inspection it had an illegal front tyre (and a selection of odd tyres all round), so they put me in a Toyota Auris Hybrid.
What a total piece of s
t. Massively uncomfortable seats with little adjustment. It’s got one of those terrible CVT gearboxes, so it’s very noisy, slow and unresponsive. And for all the pain, it’s not very economical either. It did 45mpg on the way home; a 40 miles motorway journey. Not exactly Polar Bear saving that is it?
I believe that these things are £20K+ new. Who the f
k buys this s
t I wonder?
What a total piece of s
t. Massively uncomfortable seats with little adjustment. It’s got one of those terrible CVT gearboxes, so it’s very noisy, slow and unresponsive. And for all the pain, it’s not very economical either. It did 45mpg on the way home; a 40 miles motorway journey. Not exactly Polar Bear saving that is it?I believe that these things are £20K+ new. Who the f
k buys this s
t I wonder? Willy Nilly said:
I'll bet the seats aren't massively uncomfortable
I use a CVT in my company vehicle. It is the best transmission I have ever used in any vehicle, bar none.
Nobody buys an Auris as the ultimate drivers car, they buy them because they have a reputation of being quite reliable.
I don't need to bet to speculate if the seats are uncomfortable; after a 110 mile journey this morning, I know they are. I use a CVT in my company vehicle. It is the best transmission I have ever used in any vehicle, bar none.
Nobody buys an Auris as the ultimate drivers car, they buy them because they have a reputation of being quite reliable.
Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at. Lancs Jag Boy said:
I don't need to bet to speculate if the seats are uncomfortable; after a 110 mile journey this morning, I know they are.
Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at.
So your comparing a mid range hatch back to an executive car Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at.
.My old Civic doesn't have uncomfy seats, they might not be as plush as your 5 series, but they are fine for 400 mile round trips. I'd be surprised if Toyota have put seats you can't sit in for 110 miles, assuming you had adjusted it properly.
Willy Nilly said:
Lancs Jag Boy said:
I don't need to bet to speculate if the seats are uncomfortable; after a 110 mile journey this morning, I know they are.
Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at.
So your comparing a mid range hatch back to an executive car Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at.
.My old Civic doesn't have uncomfy seats, they might not be as plush as your 5 series, but they are fine for 400 mile round trips. I'd be surprised if Toyota have put seats you can't sit in for 110 miles, assuming you had adjusted it properly.
I am however commenting on the terrible seats compared with any other car I’ve ever driven, many of which are budget rental cars. So, if you’d “be surprised” that Toyota have fitted rubbish seats to the Auris Hybrid (doesn’t sound like you’ve driven one), then get ready to be surprised, because they have.
Lancs Jag Boy said:
I don't need to bet to speculate if the seats are uncomfortable; after a 110 mile journey this morning, I know they are.
Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at.
It's designed for a mix of urban and open road driving. In those conditions it will punt out a lot less carbon and no2 than your Beemer. On the motorway at a constant speed, a diesel will always win the fuel consumption race, but not the emissions one.Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at. Lancs Jag Boy said:
Willy Nilly said:
I'll bet the seats aren't massively uncomfortable
I use a CVT in my company vehicle. It is the best transmission I have ever used in any vehicle, bar none.
Nobody buys an Auris as the ultimate drivers car, they buy them because they have a reputation of being quite reliable.
I don't need to bet to speculate if the seats are uncomfortable; after a 110 mile journey this morning, I know they are. I use a CVT in my company vehicle. It is the best transmission I have ever used in any vehicle, bar none.
Nobody buys an Auris as the ultimate drivers car, they buy them because they have a reputation of being quite reliable.
Mainly motorway, it did 49.7mpg. In this day and age, that's not "green". My recently returned F10 520d auto (no ED), a much bigger car, did 48mpg all day long.
As I said, who buys this s
t? They need their heads looking at. Not driven an Auris and hope I never will, but the loan car I've been given whilst my E350 Sport is being repaired after a fool in a truck drove into it is;
A Nissan Note
Nothing remotely noteworthy about it. 3 cyl 1.2 gutless engine, all the controls feel that they're connected using rubber bands. Very uncomfortable.
It costs IRO £13500 new but you can get a 1 year low miler for half that, so massive depreciation. 48 mpg is hardly planet saving.
Why do people buy this awful rubbish?
A Nissan Note

Nothing remotely noteworthy about it. 3 cyl 1.2 gutless engine, all the controls feel that they're connected using rubber bands. Very uncomfortable.
It costs IRO £13500 new but you can get a 1 year low miler for half that, so massive depreciation. 48 mpg is hardly planet saving.
Why do people buy this awful rubbish?

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