tappet rattle
tappet rattle
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whitewolf

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751 posts

188 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Good evening.

Back in July my dad and I adjusted the tappets. I got the info from Adrian@ and did it all accordingly.



However. Have a rattle noise...rev related, on idle its perfectly fine but any revs and it rattles.

Looking through the oil filler I can see cylinder 4 valves, and the noise occurs in time to the valves/springs moving.



Can anybody help or suggest something I've done? Before we altered them there was never any rattle at all.


I'll post a video I have.

whitewolf

Original Poster:

751 posts

188 months

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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I have no idea what Adrian@,s tappet adjusting method is but it is possible to do it wrong. Is the noise coming from one side of engine or both?


Perhaps I should leave this to Pridaux. On his own admission he,s a rattle expert.

Edited by thegamekeeper on Wednesday 7th November 17:55

phillpot

17,439 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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That does not sound good yikes


Rocker covers off and see if anything obvious is very lose or broken?

Still running on all six or hard to tell?

Maybe (but hopefully not) tip broken off spark plug, embedded in piston and hitting valve?

Any little nuts missing from air cleaner that could have fallen in?

dryden

361 posts

191 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Hi Whitewolf,
Did it always rattle since you adjusted them, or is it new?
If it has always rattled since adjustment, it is probably wrongly adjusted.
If it is new, it is probably come undone,
Or, it is a blocked oilway......Good flush or rocker arm off and clean.
Stay happy!
Clive

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Stripped Timing gear!

Suggest you stop trying to run the engine and take off the rockers for a look ASAP.
N.

DavidY

4,492 posts

306 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Or pulled the rocker studs out of the head, easy to do on an Essex (been there got the T-shirt). You set the tappets everything sounds ok, then after 5-10 miles, it sounds like a bag of nails again. Usually happens on engines that have received some past high revs (guilty as charged!!!)

RCK974X

2,521 posts

171 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Just a thought, but the underneath of the rockers can wear, so that the feeler guages give a false (and too wide) clearance, which can cause a rattly engine.... or is that too obvious ??

Adrian@

4,504 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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RCK974X said:
Just a thought, but the underneath of the rockers can wear, so that the feeler guages give a false (and too wide) clearance, which can cause a rattly engine.... or is that too obvious ??
(not too obvious but it would of been ran through with the OP)
Yes it is possible to get it wrong, BUT my method is a pictorial AND the numbers of the cylinders are in the casting above the each bore cast into the inlet manifold as is the firing order.
Stop the engine, check all of everything above, by all who has commented.
(Pull the fuel pump out and look though the hole to see the teeth on the cam gear)
Add a valve insert dropping out to your list (on cheap unleaded conversions OR a previously recovered head, as in a single insert that is use to recover a damaged seat).
Add a compression part of the adjuster nut failing (for this is how the nut lock onto the stud).
Adrian@



Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 7th November 19:48

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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pridaux said:
thegamekeeper said:
I have no idea what Adrian@,s tappet adjusting method is but it is possible to do it wrong. Is the noise coming from one side of engine or both?


Perhaps I should leave this to Pridaux. On his own admission he,s a rattle expert.

Edited by thegamekeeper on Wednesday 7th November 17:55
Someone let you out to play how nice thaught it sounded like your rattle in there Adrians method works fine unless you did not wiggle them about after checking and then go round again checking twice
Nobody lets me out to play, I,ve been playing with my TVR,s for 45+ years. You seem to spend too much time playing with yourself. You seem to have owned 1 TVR for almost a year, probably adjusted your tappets once and become an expert on all things TVR.


I on the otherhand have owned, driven, restored, raced, modified manufactured parts and enjoyed well over 500 TVR,s. Unlike SOME experts I actually DRIVE these things, many 1000,s of miles EVERY year in many countries. I have owned and DRIVEN 14 Turbos, the last one very few years ago.

My original post in this thread was the start of a sytematic and knowledge based approach to trying to resolve the OP,s problem, yours was your usual pointless irrelevant carp.

Is "Pridaux" some ancient word for "premature ejaculation". Look back over your almost year and try to work out for yourself what your actual contribution to these forums has been.

Word of advice to OP. If the engine develops a noise like that DONT rev the tits off it and record it on your phone, turn it off and investigate or seek advice from someone who might know. You can only have made it worse. I have never come across an engine that fixes itself by revving it.

GAjon

3,987 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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thegamekeeper said:
I have never come across an engine that fixes itself by revving it.
Why's no one mentioned this to me before. wink

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Sorry John, forgot to say except Cosworth GA,s

Adrian@

4,504 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Lets you two can kiss and make up...but please leave me out of the bickering.

Bring it back on track and trying to resolve the Op's issues please.
...from someone who has 4 of his seven TVR's taxed/mot'd and on the road...OK, my Turbo is not on the road!!
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 7th November 20:54

phillpot

17,439 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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thegamekeeper said:
I have never come across an engine that fixes itself by revving it.
I thought that was the acknowledged "cure" for any mis-fire wink

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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phillpot said:
I thought that was the acknowledged "cure" for any mis-fire wink
Sorry I meant to say except Cosworth GA, and engines with misfires

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Adrian@ said:
Lets you two can kiss and make up...but please leave me out of the bickering.

Bring it back on track and trying to resolve the Op's issues please.
...from someone who has 4 of his seven TVR's taxed/mot'd and on the road...OK, my Turbo is not on the road!!
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Wednesday 7th November 20:54
Don't remember mentioning you..

GAjon

3,987 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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thegamekeeper said:
Sorry I meant to say except Cosworth GA, and engines with misfires
And don't forget, if you open the bonnet and rev it direct at the carb there's no limit to high high you can take it, as long as you remember to periodically look towards the back of the car to watch the bad stuff come out of the exhaust and shake your head knowingly..

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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GAjon said:
And don't forget, if you open the bonnet and rev it direct at the carb there's no limit to high high you can take it, as long as you remember to periodically look towards the back of the car to watch the bad stuff come out of the exhaust and shake your head knowingly..
Have to disagree. When enough bad stuff comes out of exhaust engine will limit high revs itself

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

304 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Can someone now help Whitewolf. He seems genuinely enthusiastic and though sometimes maybe misguided he seems to be keen to ask when he doesn't, t know and LISTEN and learn. We should all learn something every day

phillpot

17,439 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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thegamekeeper said:
Can someone now help Whitewolf.
There was plenty of sound advice before things went a little "off track" ?

Hopefully Mick will report back in a day or two with his findings and will be able to put up a video clip of what an Essex should sound like smile