Speed limit prenalties
Discussion
So I note that in this government's considered wisdom, it has been decided to scale the punishment for speeding.
What that means is that plebs in ordinary cars that don't go so fast, and who are not paying attention, get preferential treatment, but others in better, faster, more capable (and usually more expensive) cars get punished more. Interestingly it has been shown that drivers of high performance cars tend to be more careful and considerate drivers, and pay better attention.
Stiffer penalties for exceeding 30 mph perhaps. But i think this puts out my 125 mph runs up the A120, and I only do these when there is not much traffic about!
Of course, cars like ours are built to do greater speeds, and thus have better suspension, braking etc., so we should use these points in mitigation when caught!
I note the other thread re the Cerbera at 160mph - so I suppose that is instant jail then?
Make the roads safer and maintain them and there wouldn't be so many accidents! Also improve driving standards!
I wonder how many members of the government have shares in track day companies?
firefox
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:47
Ah well. I can't seem to correct the typo in the heading!
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:48
What that means is that plebs in ordinary cars that don't go so fast, and who are not paying attention, get preferential treatment, but others in better, faster, more capable (and usually more expensive) cars get punished more. Interestingly it has been shown that drivers of high performance cars tend to be more careful and considerate drivers, and pay better attention.
Stiffer penalties for exceeding 30 mph perhaps. But i think this puts out my 125 mph runs up the A120, and I only do these when there is not much traffic about!
Of course, cars like ours are built to do greater speeds, and thus have better suspension, braking etc., so we should use these points in mitigation when caught!
I note the other thread re the Cerbera at 160mph - so I suppose that is instant jail then?
Make the roads safer and maintain them and there wouldn't be so many accidents! Also improve driving standards!
I wonder how many members of the government have shares in track day companies?
firefox
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:47
Ah well. I can't seem to correct the typo in the heading!
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:48
firefox1712 said:
this puts out my 125 mph runs up the A120, and I only do these when there is not much traffic about!
I note the other thread re the Cerbera at 160mph - so I suppose that is instant jail then?
Alleged, alleged that man.
It also annoys me that the government takes in about £60 billion a year in motoring taxes but only spends about £10 billion on the roads when many bypasses are still needed. 
Hmm if it makes you feel better, in my country police hide behind trashcans, bridges or anything just to get you caught for speeding. Police are becoming prostitutes for the government, they do anything to write fines and earn money for our government. The safety is not the issue cause everybody is watching the sides of the road and searching for police instead of watching the road and traffic. We even have got targets for police(wo)men they have to write a number of fines a day, i bet they argue about who may hold the lasergun today.
firefox1712 said:
So I note that in this government's considered wisdom, it has been decided to scale the punishment for speeding.
What that means is that plebs in ordinary cars that don't go so fast, and who are not paying attention, get preferential treatment, but others in better, faster, more capable (and usually more expensive) cars get punished more. Interestingly it has been shown that drivers of high performance cars tend to be more careful and considerate drivers, and pay better attention.
Stiffer penalties for exceeding 30 mph perhaps. But i think this puts out my 125 mph runs up the A120, and I only do these when there is not much traffic about!
Of course, cars like ours are built to do greater speeds, and thus have better suspension, braking etc., so we should use these points in mitigation when caught!
I note the other thread re the Cerbera at 160mph - so I suppose that is instant jail then?
Make the roads safer and maintain them and there wouldn't be so many accidents! Also improve driving standards!
I wonder how many members of the government have shares in track day companies?
firefox
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:47
Ah well. I can't seem to correct the typo in the heading!
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:48
Poll please.
Any TVR drivers out there any more selfish and a bigger egotistical maniac than Firefox?
Hope I never meet you head-on along the A120 when you are about.
bobble350 said:
So I note that in this government's considered wisdom, it has been decided to scale the punishment for speeding.
What that means is that plebs in ordinary cars that don't go so fast, and who are not paying attention, get preferential treatment, but others in better, faster, more capable (and usually more expensive) cars get punished more. Interestingly it has been shown that drivers of high performance cars tend to be more careful and considerate drivers, and pay better attention.
Stiffer penalties for exceeding 30 mph perhaps. But i think this puts out my 125 mph runs up the A120, and I only do these when there is not much traffic about!
Of course, cars like ours are built to do greater speeds, and thus have better suspension, braking etc., so we should use these points in mitigation when caught!
I note the other thread re the Cerbera at 160mph - so I suppose that is instant jail then?
Make the roads safer and maintain them and there wouldn't be so many accidents! Also improve driving standards!
I wonder how many members of the government have shares in track day companies?
firefox
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:47
Ah well. I can't seem to correct the typo in the heading!
>>> Edited by firefox1712 on Wednesday 1st September 08:48
Poll please.
Any TVR drivers out there any more selfish and a bigger egotistical maniac than Firefox?
Hope I never meet you head-on along the A120 when you are about.
Chill out dude, don't you ever drive yours a bit faster than H M Government says you ought!
Never met you, but I would say FF is nothing of the sort just an enthusiast who enjoys driving his Wedge fast when it's safe
I never go above 70 
I'm with bobble on this. A small increase in speed over the limit is acceptable (IMHO) as other drivers will, at least have some experience in appreciating the situation and taking appropriate action. Go too fast and others will not even contemplate that you're in the vicinity.
The issue is not the capability of the fast car or the fast driver, but of others on the same stretch of road. Can you imagine the situation if 50% of the population travelled at 120 plus mph.
The issue is not the capability of the fast car or the fast driver, but of others on the same stretch of road. Can you imagine the situation if 50% of the population travelled at 120 plus mph.
Think the point is that how can the government work out how to penalise or scale these fines, surely speeding is dependant on the surroudings, whilst in the good old days if the police saw you doing a high speed BUT it was @ 2 in the morning on an empty motorway, they'd just tell you to calm it (beauty of police descretion and common sense over scameras).. Whereas with scameras you can be doing 50 in a 30 @ 03:00am past a school with not a soul on the road and get the same fine/penalty as the tw*t doing 50 in a 30 @ school chucking out time.. if they want to scale the fines then they can take the time of day into account as well before they go screwing us all for more money and making crims out of anyone with a license..
over
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>> Edited by seamus on Thursday 2nd September 05:49
over Edited to curb the language
>> Edited by seamus on Thursday 2nd September 05:49
To bobble 350 -
I don't go over 50 mph or so on the stretch of A120 I think you are talking about - the single lane section. There are dual carriageway sections of the A120 - most notably the new section from Stansted to Braintree where everyone was doing 110 mph the other week and going past me! And I do mean everyone!
I don't go over 50 mph or so on the stretch of A120 I think you are talking about - the single lane section. There are dual carriageway sections of the A120 - most notably the new section from Stansted to Braintree where everyone was doing 110 mph the other week and going past me! And I do mean everyone!
in a straight line of course, you may well of meant sideways of course (every SEAC`s favourite shape)alledgedly! 
On the roads I see everything from Seats to Subarus with drivers tailgating, twitching and thraiping, overtaking where it is unsafe, taking blind corners too fast, sliding on roudabouts, taking chances and almost certainly driving beyond their limited capabilities. Many of these have a body bag waiting - with their name on it.
This is high risk motoring, not only for themselves but other road users in their path.
When out driving, I would hope that if the 'plebs in ordinary cars' even notice my car, respect the sensible non-agressive way in which I drive it rather than think "look at that arsehole in that flash car with a death wish, serves him right if he wraps himself around a signpost at the next roundabout".
It's inconsiderate driving that gets owners of fast exotic cars a bad name. Excessive speed is just one element of it.
Firefox - I don't mean to single you out, as I'm sure you don't drive like a maniac, but have you read what you wrote in the cold light of day?
This is high risk motoring, not only for themselves but other road users in their path.
When out driving, I would hope that if the 'plebs in ordinary cars' even notice my car, respect the sensible non-agressive way in which I drive it rather than think "look at that arsehole in that flash car with a death wish, serves him right if he wraps himself around a signpost at the next roundabout".
It's inconsiderate driving that gets owners of fast exotic cars a bad name. Excessive speed is just one element of it.
Firefox - I don't mean to single you out, as I'm sure you don't drive like a maniac, but have you read what you wrote in the cold light of day?
firefox1712 said:
So I note that in this government's considered wisdom, it has been decided to scale the punishment for speeding.
Don't know how to break this to you chaps but if you ask a local JP they will confirm to you that for many years now they have been furnished with a book containing a sliding scale of 'recommended' points & fines for various motoring offences - as I found to my cost when I was clocked at 84 in a 60 limit 9 years ago. 5 points & a £120 fine in 1995!
Track days & go-karting are much more fun anyway...
bobble -
I am wondering if it is you that has the death wish!
I am sure that all who have read my original missive will have recognised that it was somewhat tongue in cheek - possibly even slightly funny? I mean, even with my considerable wealth I too have had an MGB!
In fact I agree with you on some of your points. I am continually amazed at the driving standards of others. This is not to say that I am a perfect driver, but when my paassengers exclaim when other oncoming vehicles are taking up most of the road then I Know that there is BAD driving on the part of others. The favourite seems to be cutting, and going well over, the centre line of right hand corners when they cannot see around the bend. Several times I have had the side almost taken off my car by such individuals - or been pushed so far to the left I hhave come close to ending in a ditch or suffered scratching from roadside brambles.
It is very difficult to actually drive fast around here due to the amount of traffic, the bad driving of others, and the poor state of the roads which requires keen concentration at all times. Modern cars readily come up behind me when I am struggling with the poor road surface!
I have always said - any mad fool can drive fast, but very few can drive quickly.
And bobble - as I started off this thread then it is only reasonable for you to aim your shots at me!
I'm now off to buy a bobble car!
firefox
I am wondering if it is you that has the death wish!
I am sure that all who have read my original missive will have recognised that it was somewhat tongue in cheek - possibly even slightly funny? I mean, even with my considerable wealth I too have had an MGB!
In fact I agree with you on some of your points. I am continually amazed at the driving standards of others. This is not to say that I am a perfect driver, but when my paassengers exclaim when other oncoming vehicles are taking up most of the road then I Know that there is BAD driving on the part of others. The favourite seems to be cutting, and going well over, the centre line of right hand corners when they cannot see around the bend. Several times I have had the side almost taken off my car by such individuals - or been pushed so far to the left I hhave come close to ending in a ditch or suffered scratching from roadside brambles.
It is very difficult to actually drive fast around here due to the amount of traffic, the bad driving of others, and the poor state of the roads which requires keen concentration at all times. Modern cars readily come up behind me when I am struggling with the poor road surface!
I have always said - any mad fool can drive fast, but very few can drive quickly.
And bobble - as I started off this thread then it is only reasonable for you to aim your shots at me!
I'm now off to buy a bobble car!
firefox
I've been let of twice driving wedges, as long as you drive responsibly and show that you can stop quickly these are points in your favour.
One of those times was going along the A45, and I was let off doing 115 by the assistant chief constable of Suffolk constabulary. On the other hand, maybe he just didn't like paperwork....
One of those times was going along the A45, and I was let off doing 115 by the assistant chief constable of Suffolk constabulary. On the other hand, maybe he just didn't like paperwork....
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