MOT Tester Crashes Lamborghini
MOT Tester Crashes Lamborghini
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Birdster

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2,548 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Sorry for the Daily Mail link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233278/Un...

Do they have to take these cars out then to test?

Output Flange

17,050 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Birdster said:
Do they have to take these cars out then to test?
No.

article said:
'With the Lamborghini being a four-wheel drive, it has to be road tested to test the efficiency of the brakes. You can’t put it through the rolling road brake-tester here because it would damage it.'
Really?

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

215 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Well - unless the garage didn't have proper brake test rollers, or the Lambo was too low to get on them... in which case he may have had to take it out and use a decelerometer for the brake test...

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Output Flange said:
Birdster said:
Do they have to take these cars out then to test?
No.
Actually, yes, to test the brakes.

Anything with a LSD or 4X4 systems should not be tested using the brake test rollers.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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No more than 25-30mph eh?




Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Not sure what's rarer... an LP640 or a bobby on the beat!

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

246 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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E30M3SE said:
Output Flange said:
Birdster said:
Do they have to take these cars out then to test?
No.
Actually, yes, to test the brakes.

Anything with a LSD or 4X4 systems should not be tested using the brake test rollers.
Pretty much this.

jbi

12,700 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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If the brake tester only tests one set of wheels at a time... I can see why a 4x4 car would not work on it

Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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hornetrider said:
No more than 25-30mph eh?
Looks superficial, so probably.

Manicminer

12,628 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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DM Article said:
'With the Lamborghini being a four-wheel drive, it has to be road tested to test the efficiency of the brakes. You can’t put it through the rolling road brake-tester here because it would damage it.'
Are there any set rules for this on road brake testing? All done by feel, hands off the wheel style?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Podie said:
hornetrider said:
No more than 25-30mph eh?
Looks superficial, so probably.
You'll note that it's the rear of the car that is smashed up. From doing a brake test. At 30mph.

Do you want me to draw a picture?!

hehe

Output Flange

17,050 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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E30M3SE said:
Actually, yes, to test the brakes.

Anything with a LSD or 4X4 systems should not be tested using the brake test rollers.
Then someone needs to tell every MOT tester I've ever used that bit of news.

14-7

6,233 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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How do you test the efficiency of the brakes on the road then? Surely you have to have a machine to check brake balance not just a mechanic saying, "it feels ok".


Podie

46,649 posts

305 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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hornetrider said:
Podie said:
hornetrider said:
No more than 25-30mph eh?
Looks superficial, so probably.
You'll note that it's the rear of the car that is smashed up. From doing a brake test. At 30mph.

Do you want me to draw a picture?!

hehe
Thought I'd put a hehe on the end!

jon-

16,534 posts

246 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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14-7 said:
How do you test the efficiency of the brakes on the road then? Surely you have to have a machine to check brake balance not just a mechanic saying, "it feels ok".
Decelerometer for retardation, feel for balance.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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jon- said:
14-7 said:
How do you test the efficiency of the brakes on the road then? Surely you have to have a machine to check brake balance not just a mechanic saying, "it feels ok".
Decelerometer for retardation, feel for balance.
Well the Tester certainly scored highly for retardation.

E30M3SE

8,493 posts

226 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Output Flange said:
E30M3SE said:
Actually, yes, to test the brakes.

Anything with a LSD or 4X4 systems should not be tested using the brake test rollers.
Then someone needs to tell every MOT tester I've ever used that bit of news.
It's not Breaking News,

http://www.ukmot.com/3-7.asp

mrmr96

13,736 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Output Flange said:
E30M3SE said:
Actually, yes, to test the brakes.

Anything with a LSD or 4X4 systems should not be tested using the brake test rollers.
Then someone needs to tell every MOT tester I've ever used that bit of news.
What makes you doubt it?

Most MOT stations have a rolling brake test machine where you put only one axle on at a time. On 2WD cars it's no problem since spinning either the front or rear wheels has no effect on the other end of the car.

On a 4WD car spinning one set of wheels will spin the other, as they are linked by the centre diff. Unless the centre diff is fully open, i.e. not a limited slip diff of somekind. If it was fully open then putting the car in neutral would allow one set of wheels to rotate independently of the other. (It would make the gearbox spin instead.)

You can also get around it by spinning one wheel of an axle forward, and the other wheel of that axle backward. Then the centre diff won't move at all. But this can be bad for the diff on the axle you're spinning.

Something like the Lambo, and indeed most performance 4WD cars, will have limited slip diffs (front, centre and rear). And as such it will cause damage to spin two out of the 4 wheels. The MOT station could roll them on a 4WD brake tester (with 4 rollers) but most stations don't have them. As such a 'moving brake test' is usually employed instead and is an acceptable alternative to using the brake testing machine.

Just seems this MOT tester crashed while he was out in the car. But there was a valid reason for being there.

jjones

4,489 posts

223 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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http://www.tapley.org.uk/braketestmeter.html

as brake testing a single axle on an AWD with LSD is bad

14-7

6,233 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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jon- said:
Decelerometer for retardation, feel for balance.
Well you learn something everyday!