Battery and Heater Lights stay on? Help please!
Battery and Heater Lights stay on? Help please!
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Browneye

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14 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th November 2012
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Hello All,

I have recently purchased a 98 Chimaera 450. It seems to have an electrical problem where when the engine is turned off the battery and heater control lights come on, and therefore drain the battery. I have read other posts of people having similar problems and them suggesting that by pressing the brake pedal or flicking the wiper arm it goes out, and it does.
But has anyone actually found a solution?? I have taken the alternator to a auto electrician who says it is fine, the battery has been checked and all is fine and both the 100amp fuses are fine.
So im not sure what it is but any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks

Neil

domV8

1,408 posts

211 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Don't know if in any way related - but I had a problem with my headlights remaining on (or turning on) when the switch was "off"...

Turned out to be a short-circuit in the "birds nest" of wiring sat on the battery - a wire was touching a live feed somewhere, and putting power through the headlights.

Might be worth moving/seperating the birds nest wires, just in case you see the lights go out...

HTH,

Dom

Browneye

Original Poster:

14 posts

167 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Will have a look at the wiring see if there is anything obvious.

Thanks

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

234 months

Friday 16th November 2012
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Also faulty ignition switch common vauxhall cavalier problem which is what it came from.

Cambs lion

19 posts

172 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Did you find problem and get sorted?

Browneye

Original Poster:

14 posts

167 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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No not yet. As long as I press the brake pedal when I switch Trev off the lights go out.
You having a similar problem or have a solution for me...

Julesprivate

871 posts

173 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I'd be willing to put (a small amount of) money on it being the alternator (or more specifically the exciter circuit in the diode pack). Had a similar issue on my S after I'd blown one of the two paired diodes in the exciter circuit.

The exciter circuit takes a feed from a switched ignition source to "kick start" the charging circuit in the alternator. On some (older design) alternators it also means you may need to blip the throttle to get >1500 RPM before it starts to charge.

If one of the diodes fails (short circuit) it can bleed back 12V to the ignition circuit, pressing the brake will dissipate some residual charge and "switch off" the diode.

For the electricians out there I know I am oversimplifying things and it's not "technically" correct - but hopefully you'll agree it is "logically correct".....that's why i went the electronics engineering route rather than electrician LOL

ChimpofDarkness

9,637 posts

209 months

Tuesday 20th November 2012
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Julesprivate said:
I'd be willing to put (a small amount of) money on it being the alternator (or more specifically the exciter circuit in the diode pack). Had a similar issue on my S after I'd blown one of the two paired diodes in the exciter circuit.

The exciter circuit takes a feed from a switched ignition source to "kick start" the charging circuit in the alternator. On some (older design) alternators it also means you may need to blip the throttle to get >1500 RPM before it starts to charge.

If one of the diodes fails (short circuit) it can bleed back 12V to the ignition circuit, pressing the brake will dissipate some residual charge and "switch off" the diode.

For the electricians out there I know I am oversimplifying things and it's not "technically" correct - but hopefully you'll agree it is "logically correct".....that's why i went the electronics engineering route rather than electrician LOL
Wot he said ^

No need to replace the whole alternator either, just change the diode pack.

Job jobbed by any half competent auto electrician for less than fifty squids wink

Browneye

Original Poster:

14 posts

167 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Will have to take it off and get it checked out again then.
Always used this guy know him quite well, in the past and has been good as gold.
He didnt charge me a penny for checking it out, where he couldk have made a bit of money if he had found a fault.
But you guys have put a bit of doubt in my mind!

Cambs lion

19 posts

172 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Browneye

Did you get it sorted?