997 Turbo vs Cayman R
Discussion
Hi all, wondered if some of you could offer some help!
I'm looking to replace my 987.2 Boxster S after only a few months - I'm just not getting on with the PDK and wish I had bought a manual! Really missing that extra bit of involvement with the car, although the PDK is a really great auto, it is no manual replacement.
With that in mind I have £40-50k to spend on a daily driver that will be our only car.
I think I am edging towards a Cayman R but can't help feeling that for this money it would be better spent on a supercar like the 911 turbo.
Anybody have any experience with both? Is there something else I should be considering instead?
I'm looking to replace my 987.2 Boxster S after only a few months - I'm just not getting on with the PDK and wish I had bought a manual! Really missing that extra bit of involvement with the car, although the PDK is a really great auto, it is no manual replacement.
With that in mind I have £40-50k to spend on a daily driver that will be our only car.
I think I am edging towards a Cayman R but can't help feeling that for this money it would be better spent on a supercar like the 911 turbo.
Anybody have any experience with both? Is there something else I should be considering instead?
If you are living with a Boxster as an only car currently I guess the occasional rear seats in the 997 offer very little advantage. Running costs on a Cayman R will be at the same level as you are used to, the 997 will be a significant increase due to higher fuel, consumable and servicing costs.
Depreciation should be lower on the 997 as at £40-50K it will be much further down the curve than the Cayman.
I've not driven a 997T much but the accelleration is in a different league to just about anything else on the road, never mind a N/A 3.4. 4-wheel drive is also an advantage in the cold and damp unless you have winter wheels etc.
Nice choice to have though, good luck whichever you choose.
Depreciation should be lower on the 997 as at £40-50K it will be much further down the curve than the Cayman.
I've not driven a 997T much but the accelleration is in a different league to just about anything else on the road, never mind a N/A 3.4. 4-wheel drive is also an advantage in the cold and damp unless you have winter wheels etc.
Nice choice to have though, good luck whichever you choose.
It really depends on what you want. I'm not a huge fan of 4WD in Porsches - steering feel is diminished. And turbos aren't really my thing either. The Turbo is way faster and more practical but will cost more to service, however a CR will lose much more in depreciation.
I like my CR a lot - it's a car that really grows on you, a brilliant driver's car especially with a manual 'box. If I could only have one of the 2 cars you mentioned it would be the CR. If I could only have one car fullstop (nothing else in the garage), then I'd probably go for the turbo or just a standard C2S.
I like my CR a lot - it's a car that really grows on you, a brilliant driver's car especially with a manual 'box. If I could only have one of the 2 cars you mentioned it would be the CR. If I could only have one car fullstop (nothing else in the garage), then I'd probably go for the turbo or just a standard C2S.
Test drive a Turbo , a proper test drive not just round the block in traffic . Be warned there is no going back however any thing else is a compromise . As for talk of loosing something with the four wheel drive don't believe that for a second, take it to Scotland and drive it like you stole it, Bliss absolutley bliss !
The GT3 boys will kick up, but it's a track car ! End off . nogthing comes close to a 997 Turbo as a every day car at any price, get one for 40K and you have a bargain that will make you giggle like a school boy ! Don't consider anything but manual unless you live in London or you are over ninety .
Off now for a drink, feel free to flame at your leisure
The GT3 boys will kick up, but it's a track car ! End off . nogthing comes close to a 997 Turbo as a every day car at any price, get one for 40K and you have a bargain that will make you giggle like a school boy ! Don't consider anything but manual unless you live in London or you are over ninety .
Off now for a drink, feel free to flame at your leisure
johnycarrera said:
On the road, the turbo cars are unbeatable and totally addictive!
I'd like a cayman R but only "as well as"!
This. I'd like a cayman R but only "as well as"!
Had a Cayman R demo for a couple of days and it felt like a toy.... got back into my turbo and it just felt more... everything, more stable, more planted at speed, more confidence inspiring in corners, more performance, more practicality...
CR would have been a great additional track toy, but certainly not a turbo replacement/alternative.
Turbo boys are bigging up their weapon of choice: a blunt instrument to the sharp scalpel of the Spyder /Cayman R.
On public roads at vaguely legal speeds the turbo has no performance advantage, if anything, the contrary. However, extensive scientific testing at Oulton Park and the rural delights of France reveal that there are various scenarios where the turbo's massive power advantage is untouchable. But it won't get far ahead, if at all.
On public roads at vaguely legal speeds the turbo has no performance advantage, if anything, the contrary. However, extensive scientific testing at Oulton Park and the rural delights of France reveal that there are various scenarios where the turbo's massive power advantage is untouchable. But it won't get far ahead, if at all.
rob.kellock said:
Turbo boys are bigging up their weapon of choice: a blunt instrument to the sharp scalpel of the Spyder /Cayman R.
On public roads at vaguely legal speeds the turbo has no performance advantage, if anything, the contrary. However, extensive scientific testing at Oulton Park and the rural delights of France reveal that there are various scenarios where the turbo's massive power advantage is untouchable. But it won't get far ahead, if at all.
hmm not sure - you must be talking about roads with built in slalomsOn public roads at vaguely legal speeds the turbo has no performance advantage, if anything, the contrary. However, extensive scientific testing at Oulton Park and the rural delights of France reveal that there are various scenarios where the turbo's massive power advantage is untouchable. But it won't get far ahead, if at all.
rob.kellock said:
On public roads at vaguely legal speeds the turbo has no performance advantage, if anything, the contrary
You're having a laugh right (made me chuckle anyway) :-))Turbo is quite good on the road as all those Torques give it ability to safely overtake where other cars might struggle a bit.
Anyway, OP should just make sure he drives both first and then decide if its a scalpel (crimping scissors more like ;-) or a sledge-hammer that suits him best
Edited to say...had 2 Boxsters and loved em :-)
Edited by OggyDJ on Thursday 15th November 23:10
OggyDJ said:
T U R B O
Had mine (2006 Gen 1 manual) 3 Years now and while not the cheapest car in the world to maintain, as Jason Plato said "If you love cars, you will love this !"
Suggest just drive both then decide :-))
Oggy,Had mine (2006 Gen 1 manual) 3 Years now and while not the cheapest car in the world to maintain, as Jason Plato said "If you love cars, you will love this !"
Suggest just drive both then decide :-))
What kind of exhaust have you got on there?
Switchable? Probs with CEL?
leemanning said:
Hi all, wondered if some of you could offer some help!
I'm looking to replace my 987.2 Boxster S after only a few months - I'm just not getting on with the PDK and wish I had bought a manual! Really missing that extra bit of involvement with the car, although the PDK is a really great auto, it is no manual replacement.
With that in mind I have £40-50k to spend on a daily driver that will be our only car.
I think I am edging towards a Cayman R but can't help feeling that for this money it would be better spent on a supercar like the 911 turbo.
Anybody have any experience with both? Is there something else I should be considering instead?
I have a CR and chose it as it's not a d/d. Depending on your size and preferences, you may not want the sport bucket seats or may want air con which moves the car away from its proposition. Spec'ing comfort means that down the line, you're selling something that is not a pure R but an 'S-lite' with LSD. I'm looking to replace my 987.2 Boxster S after only a few months - I'm just not getting on with the PDK and wish I had bought a manual! Really missing that extra bit of involvement with the car, although the PDK is a really great auto, it is no manual replacement.
With that in mind I have £40-50k to spend on a daily driver that will be our only car.
I think I am edging towards a Cayman R but can't help feeling that for this money it would be better spent on a supercar like the 911 turbo.
Anybody have any experience with both? Is there something else I should be considering instead?
On a practical note, I find that the Cayman has more configurable/usable space than a 911 unless you want to carry four people of course. It's more convenient getting things in and out the vehicle.
I haven't owned a Turbo but have driven a 997.2 on several occasions and it's a fantastic car, it's just a different proposition.
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