What track car ??

[wizzbilly]

What track car looking for suggestions .

track only but road legal will be trailerd to events

power 350ish

handling is the key factor .

plan run full cage and slicks plus much lighting .


been looking at honda civics they seam to be stripped out dry weight 750kg but the they dont produce much tourqe i good freind of mine has a 500bhp civit but only producs 360lbft , am used to more tourqe than power

any suggestions welcome .

thanks in advance

[andye30m3]

budget might help

[wackojacko]

Cheapest 350bhp track car would be a modified MR2 Turbo of sorts.

[jonnyleroux]

anything over 200bhp in a FWD car is like trying to make a beefburger out of a cow.

[RB Will]

Classic scoob with a few bits thrown at the engine and brakes, stripped will weight about 1000-1100kg I guess.

[Adam205]

wizzbilly said:

What track car looking for suggestions .

track only but road legal will be trailerd to events

power 350ish

handling is the key factor .

plan run full cage and slicks plus much lighting .


been looking at honda civics they seam to be stripped out dry weight 750kg but the they dont produce much tourqe i good freind of mine has a 500bhp civit but only producs 360lbft , am used to more tourqe than power

any suggestions welcome .

thanks in advance

If handling is a key factor why on earth are you looking at production hatches?

Buy a bike engined seven and be done with it.

[JordanVXR]

wizzbilly said:

What track car looking for suggestions .

track only but road legal will be trailerd to events

power 350ish

handling is the key factor .

plan run full cage and slicks plus much lighting .


been looking at honda civics they seam to be stripped out dry weight 750kg but the they dont produce much tourqe i good freind of mine has a 500bhp civit but only producs 360lbft , am used to more tourqe than power

any suggestions welcome .

thanks in advance

Think your missing the point, a stripped out civic running 260bhp n/a will be the same power to weight as an E91 M3! In fact some of the lowest power cars compete in the same leagues for VLN. Take a look at the Mini Cooper they run. Its extrememly light and durable as the entire car is Carbon.

Whats you fascination with power and figures???

IMO I think you need to do a bit more resarch and try a few cars to see which suit your driving style first and then see what possible gains can be made. I can find you some great cars with lots off power but they handle like ste! Power isn't everything my friend my standard powered Civic ruined a few peoples egos at the Ring a few weeks back. Knowledge is key :-)

Taking the civic for example all i'll say is they don't seem to be struggling in the BTCC??

[Evangelion]

Power certainly isn't everything as anyone who has embarassed more powerful cars in an MX-5 will tell you!

It's power to weight ratio that matters, and losing weight is cheaper, easier and quicker than adding power!

And a light car will not just accelerate better, it will also stop better and corner better - power can't do that for you.

[Rgm racer]

jonnyleroux said:

anything over 200bhp in a FWD car is like trying to make a beefburger out of a cow.

[wizzbilly]

Hi thanks for the replys .

a kit car type of setup just aint me am affraid .

power is not everything very true and car ru nnning at the minute was running 430bhp weight 1180kg dry FWD traction was not a issue but been able to utliste that power is another matter .

Am not tryinhg to be faster than anyone else on track as there is simply someone with more money out there and thats what it is not about for me would rather buy a base car and build it myself ,

as said power to weight ratio is something i do take into concideration at current i offten keep up with stripped e46 m3 running lot less power and rubbish tires well not rubbish tyres just was not suited to the day and the other driver was regular at the track so knew it of back there hand .

which brings me back to the honda civic silly power can be accived out them should you wish and 750-800kg in a road legal track toy is pretty good weight to beat .

offten see clio 182 mx5 etc all show up some big cars which is what its all about not all down to money but prep and driver skill .

[Evangelion]

wizzbilly said:

... not all down to money but prep and driver skill.

Very true, someone once told me that the best go-faster upgrade you can get is 15 minutes with an instructor!

[s4sturge]

jonnyleroux said:

anything over 200bhp in a FWD car is like trying to make a beefburger out of a cow.

IIRC thats what they make beefburgers out of

[jonnyleroux]

s4sturge said:

IIRC thats what they make beefburgers out of

Not the *whole* cow though. My point was that a burger is supposed to be a convenient way of eating some beef in the same way a FWD car is a convenient way to get around. If you just put 2 buns either side of a whole cow, it would negate the point of the burger somewhat.

Steaks on the other hand are like your RWD car, and you can have them as big (powerful) as can handle :-)

[BullyB]

Evangelion said:

Very true, someone once told me that the best go-faster upgrade you can get is 15 minutes with an instructor!

Totally agree, I normally take some instruction and it really helps.
Not allowed to time obviously but I'm sure I get around faster after the tuition.

[andyiley]

BullyB said:

Evangelion said:

Very true, someone once told me that the best go-faster upgrade you can get is 15 minutes with an instructor!

Totally agree, I normally take some instruction and it really helps.
Not allowed to time obviously but I'm sure I get around faster after the tuition.

100% agree, my first time at Cadwell I was taking the corner at the end of the main straight at 80mph & thought I was doing well until I spent a session with the instructor & was then able to do the same corner at 105mph...... That is just one corner!

[Terzo204]

I have to agree with wizzbilly - set up is essential as well. Even the best drivers struggle with a car that set up all wrong.