Why is sport brake the new word for estate?
Why is sport brake the new word for estate?
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Midshipracer

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240 posts

212 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I can't get the correlation.. Touring I understand but Sport brake -.-

The Moose

23,677 posts

239 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I always thought it was shooting brake (as in to carry people who shoot)??

MX7

7,902 posts

204 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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The XF is a Sport Brake.

It's just marketing, and, like most marketing, best ignored.

marmitemania

1,571 posts

172 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Shooting brake is the correct term but as we are living in a PC frenzied world you cant link the word shooting or guns to anything (apart from computer games and rap music which all the kids play and listen to) fking mental.

marmitemania

1,571 posts

172 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Actually I have just thought it could be called a lifestyle brake as that is another henious word that seems to be associated with everything nowadays that and the old favourite PREMIUM, maybe it should be called a premium lifestlye sport brake.

CoolC

4,502 posts

244 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Break is the term used in quite a bit of Europe to describe an estate car.

It comes from the old horse drawn carrage days: the back seat would break down to allow the luggage of the rich to be loaded at the railway station as they arrived. We use estate as that's where the rich would normally be going from the station, and the Americans use station waggon as that's where that type of carrage was used.

This was explained to me at a historic car collection by the tour guide. Might not be true but makes sense to me.

K-Cee

238 posts

218 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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...., guess it will impress someone !!!

petrolveins

1,783 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Well it isn't the new word for Estate.

And none of them are technically shooting brakes, a shooting brake by definition was a 2 door car converted into a shooting brake, things like this to take shooting:



Problem is the term Coupe has been stretched so far into 4 door cars they now think that when they put a big boot on the back they can call it a shooting brake. No it's just an estate.

In all fairness the CLS in particular looks very very attractive and would be a shame to call it an estate as it looks much better, but perhaps shooting brake isn't the right word.

marmitemania

1,571 posts

172 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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petrolveins said:
Well it isn't the new word for Estate.

And none of them are technically shooting brakes, a shooting brake by definition was a 2 door car converted into a shooting brake, things like this to take shooting:



Problem is the term Coupe has been stretched so far into 4 door cars they now think that when they put a big boot on the back they can call it a shooting brake. No it's just an estate.

In all fairness the CLS in particular looks very very attractive and would be a shame to call it an estate as it looks much better, but perhaps shooting brake isn't the right word.
I was actually going to say shooting brake is usually associated with the likes of Aston and Jaguar eg the XJS shooting brakes that were converted.

petrolveins

1,783 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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marmitemania said:
I was actually going to say shooting brake is usually associated with the likes of Aston and Jaguar eg the XJS shooting brakes that were converted.
The Lynx Eventer, another very good example.

Midshipracer

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240 posts

212 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Hmm everyday is a school day, I thought shooting brake was something dreamt up in a market free-for-all

Monty Zoomer

1,459 posts

187 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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marmitemania said:
maybe it should be called a premium lifestlye sport brake.
Or a turbo premium lifestlye sport brake solution. laugh

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Having watched customers with a lot more money than sense suck up the delusion that a hulking 4x4 can be labelled "Sport" I'm not in the least surprised that the same term can be applied to a large estate car with a silly roof-line.

Leaving aside the "Sport" moniker, where on earth does the "Brake" bit come in?

And who put the "Station" in station wagon?

idea - idea - idea

The new "Ssang-Yong Station Brake!!! Available exclusively in nipple pink (to attract suckers).
Should sell like hot cakes....


DrDeAtH

3,700 posts

262 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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sportbrake sounds better than sportback......

Triumph Man

9,605 posts

198 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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DrDeAtH said:
sportbrake sounds better than sportback......
Sport back sounds like an injury 'ooo I've got that sport back again, it's nearly as painful as my tennis elbow'

Disco You

3,749 posts

210 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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More to the point, why did audi decide that when they add extra doors, a car becomes a sportback?

Disastrous

10,211 posts

247 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Leaving aside the "Sport" moniker, where on earth does the "Brake" bit come in?

And who put the "Station" in station wagon?
Petrol veins explains exactly this about 5 posts up! hehe

nicanary

11,328 posts

176 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Shooting brakes were originally to transport workers to the shoot to act as beaters, and were based on commercial chassis. Ford AA...



Then the landowners decided to transport their guests in the same way, so they converted their upmarket cars. Rolls-Royce..



Today it must surely just be a marketing term. The PR boys want us to associate with the term which implies upper-class. So we get estate car, which is for use on your estate. station wagon for collecting guests from the station, etc, and now sportbrake which suggests high-performance from a mundane vehicle.

(NB Why do Audi call the 5-door the Sportback when it looks less sporting than the 3-door?)

OwenK

3,472 posts

225 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Re the Audi thing, it made sense to me when they called the four-door A5 the Sportback, because its distinguishing feature (compared to an A4) was its Fastback-style roofline. I assumed Sportback was their term for Fastback. This was backed up when they did the A7 Sportback. Then I'd read tha they'd done an A3 Sportback, and I thought ooh, that's interesting, the little A3 with a fastback rear, could be nice! But they'd just made a normal five-door confused

martin84

5,366 posts

183 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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They've all been coming up with bullst new ways of saying estate. BMW have long since used Touring, Peugeot act like an American and call it a Station Wagon. Now Jaguar say 'Sportbrake.'

Why can't they just be honest and say estate? Or does that bring up too many thoughts of old men in Volvos?