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dcw@pr

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3,516 posts

260 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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I'm new to this static car photo business. What do you think to some of these?











Before anyone says it - I know the blues need to be sorted out in the Noble photo! [now done]

>>> Edited by dcw@pr on Friday 3rd September 21:26

Phoenix

817 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Not bad for a beginner . Seriously they look very good to me.

The power station was an excellent location. I can't wait to see the rest of them.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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I like the locations and the compositions. The problem is A) I've a pet hate of fake motion blurr and B) the blurr quality is terrible. Looks like it's bathroom glass effect or alike. Is it like that in the originals or is it an effect of reducing the size?

dcw@pr

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3,516 posts

260 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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It's not fake! I see there is some funny stuff going on there though, probably due to me being careless late last night. I'll try and redo it later when i've got a minute

docevi1

10,430 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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as you know I aint no expert, but:

I really like the first shot, although personally I would prefer to see it withough the yellow blobs.

The motion blurs look nasty, like something I would take and be "upset" with (assuming I had been trying to get all the car in perfect focus)

The Nobles, I like the idea, but for me there is too much stack and the cars are too small in the image, maybe once the colours have been sorted out (is there anything wrong other than been a bit pale?) it might be better.

The Fezza, lovely, but what is with the shinyness of it? Surely the car isn't that clean, makes it look almost, well, fake.

Still, lucky bugger getting to take pictures of really nice cars in a great location. Just jealousy speaking here btw

dcw@pr

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260 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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docevi1 said:
The Fezza, lovely, but what is with the shinyness of it? Surely the car isn't that clean, makes it look almost, well, fake.


No, it's just really really clean...

I'll sort the panned ones out later

docevi1

10,430 posts

265 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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dcw@pr said:

docevi1 said:
The Fezza, lovely, but what is with the shinyness of it? Surely the car isn't that clean, makes it look almost, well, fake.

No, it's just really really clean...

I'll sort the panned ones out later

Thats incredible then!

Incidently don't take anything I say to heart, I aint no expert and could do no better than yourself (in fact could probably not take the same photo either )

lol, just noticed the one way sign in the first shot Cunning!

>> Edited by docevi1 on Friday 3rd September 18:20

tuttle

3,427 posts

254 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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The Nobles look fantastic against that cooling tower.

simpo two

89,589 posts

282 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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The two that come closest for me are Lambo and Cooling Tower.

The yellow lumps pick up the Lambo's colour well, but to me it falls down on composition: I'd have tried to arrange it so the Lambo mirrored the lumps, making a < shape.

Cooling Tower is the most dramatic - lovely colours of sky and tower. But I can see the driver sitting in one car, and perhaps the cars should be a bit closer to the lens?

Nice quality throughout though.

dcw@pr

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3,516 posts

260 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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simpo two said:
The two that come closest for me are Lambo and Cooling Tower.

The yellow lumps pick up the Lambo's colour well, but to me it falls down on composition: I'd have tried to arrange it so the Lambo mirrored the lumps, making a < shape.

Cooling Tower is the most dramatic - lovely colours of sky and tower. But I can see the driver sitting in one car, and perhaps the cars should be a bit closer to the lens?

Nice quality throughout though.


Thanks. I quite like the lumps as they are, since they draw the eye up, then the car takes it back up the other way, but I see what you are saying.

I have many of the nobles, with lots of different combinations, so i will post some of them when I get round to it. Unfortunately the guys in the Nobles were in a rush to get off ASAP, otherwise I would have got them to get out of the cars!

murph7355

40,511 posts

273 months

Friday 3rd September 2004
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Like the ideas on all, and personally think the blurred ones are the better of them. Just goes to show...

Perhaps the severest criticism is what Koenig have done to the 308! Or Halfords!

But being serious for a mo:

Shot 1) Like the composition. Hard to tell if it's Pearl Orange or yellow. Probably looks better in the RAW. And if you didn't shoot this way, why not? Perhaps tune the brightness.

Shot 3) Nobles (?). Too bright.

Shot 5) F308 - colours not representative of what the eye would normally see. The bonnet also looks over exposed (look at the grilles). The more I look at this picture, the more I think you've cranked up the red channel. Or your camera has.


Colour balance on the non-blurred ones needs work. Perhaps exposure too.

But the composition is fine IMO. Have a play with spot colour (F308 picture particularly) and some may actually benefit from grain (PS can do this).

dcw@pr

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Friday 3rd September 2004
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murph7355 said:
Shot 1) Like the composition. Hard to tell if it's Pearl Orange or yellow. Probably looks better in the RAW. And if you didn't shoot this way, why not? Perhaps tune the brightness.



Don't start the whole RAW thing again! I don't think the colour balance is too far off - I was using the shade WB setting, which as you know is very warm (too warm in this circumstance for a neutral colour balance). I then cooled down the background of the photo, but left the car as is.


murph7355 said:
Shot 3) Nobles (?). Too bright.



Agreed. Adjusted. [Edit - Hmm, maybe too much]


murph7355 said:
Shot 5) F308 - colours not representative of what the eye would normally see. The bonnet also looks over exposed (look at the grilles). The more I look at this picture, the more I think you've cranked up the red channel. Or your camera has.



Don't really see the over exposure. I did a similar thing to the Lambo shot, which may explain the colour too, but again I was going for a larger than normal contrast to make the car stand out.

Thanks for the comments everyone, keep them coming.

>> Edited by dcw@pr on Friday 3rd September 23:32

simpo two

89,589 posts

282 months

Saturday 4th September 2004
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I think Murph means saturation rather than brightness. Red does seem to have a tendency to look more extreme in this respect I've found - a combination of digital + compression perhaps? The 308 just looks jolly red to me, but not over the top.

turbobloke

113,167 posts

277 months

Sunday 5th September 2004
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murph7355 said:
Perhaps the severest criticism is what Koenig have done to the 308

They did such a bad job you couldn't tell it's a 328, and Halfords would have been better working on the later 355 - starting with the removal of the hairdryer that spoils most shots

murph7355

40,511 posts

273 months

Sunday 5th September 2004
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Crikey, it is as well!

No offence meant Bernard. Each to their own - though I do wonder why so few were built (or rather, I don't) Note that I'm probably amongst the least likely to need a hair drier too

It could well be the saturation I was meaning. It looks like some detail's been lost in the bonnet area to me though. Not sure if saturation changes would fix that?

turbobloke

113,167 posts

277 months

Sunday 5th September 2004
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murph7355 said:
Crikey, it is as well! No offence meant Bernard. Each to their own - though I do wonder why so few were built (or rather, I don't) Note that I'm probably amongst the least likely to need a hair drier too It could well be the saturation I was meaning. It looks like some detail's been lost in the bonnet area to me though. Not sure if saturation changes would fix that?

No offence taken, I trust that was clear already! There's room in the world for every shade of opinion, taste and rosso corsa:
docevi1 said:
That Ferrari is incredible!
There's a lot about the photo as posted that makes you think - perhaps that's a positive as well, but I'm starting to wonder if carnauba waxes, while good for the eye, aren't so good when it comes to photography.