Warming up
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tang lung

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199 posts

275 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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Hi folks , just wondered if anyone else lets there car warm up by just ticking over ? , I use too on my griff but in a conversation with a dealer we was talking about the correct procedure to warm up the speed six engine , and he said that leaving the speed six engine to warm up to temp was not a good thing . I just wondered if any of you vet's of the speed six world had any views on this .

blueg33

44,285 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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Done many a time here on PH.

warming by ticking over is not good for nay engine, and especially not good for the speed 6 which is sensitive to stuff like oil flow etc.

DanR100

113 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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Best to drive after starting sticking to a nice slow warm up procedure.

Davel

8,982 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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I was told to start mine, idle for a brief period at about 1,250 revs but set off fairly shortly after doing so.

Don't leave her to simply warm up on tickover.

Lensey

2,526 posts

305 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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Fit an oil heater, leave it on for a couple of hours, start, drive off keep revs low until oil up to temp.

ShiDevil

2,293 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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Lensey said:
Fit an oil heater, leave it on for a couple of hours, start, drive off keep revs low until oil up to temp.
Rinse and Repeat.... Loads of posts on this, oil heaters, warming up, also try the mytuscan website, which i looked at to which shows how to warm the car up while driving. Most people, including me, follow that methodology, but all in all it's about being sensible, let the car warm up thoroughly, and when it has, give it some!

m3coupe

1,116 posts

226 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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As pretty much above, start, drive, keep it easy until the temperature raises! The higher it is, the more fun you can have and the more it will like it!

BeillyNoy

389 posts

258 months

Wednesday 21st November 2012
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My startup routine, constructed from various threads on PH:

Oil heater for an hour or so beforehand.
Unplug oil heater
Unplug accumate
Push car out of garage
Close garage door (reduces idling time after starting)
Start car, feet off pedals
Drive off, restricting revs to....
<40C = stay below 2500 revs
<50C = stay below 4000 revs
<60C = stay below 6000 revs
>60C = gloves off and give it laldy

This worked well on my Tamora for the 2 years I owned it - apart from the oil heater, which I'm using for the first time on my Tuscan now.
(Thanks to ShiDevil for his original thread on the topic)

With the oil heater you should note that the initial oil temperature drops as the oil transfers its heat around the engine. It takes a wee while to get back to full temperature, so need to take it easy and follow the temp / revs guide above.

Hope this helps.
Neil

tang lung

Original Poster:

199 posts

275 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Thanks for the help much appreciated :-)

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

213 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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BeillyNoy said:
<50C = stay below 4000 revs
Wouldnt go to 4000 rpm with oil below 50 degrees. 3000 yes, but not 4.

Mattt

16,664 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Stay 2 below oil temp, so 3k at 50, 4k at 60, 2k at 40 etc.

BeillyNoy

389 posts

258 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Mattt said:
Stay 2 below oil temp, so 3k at 50, 4k at 60, 2k at 40 etc.
That's a much easier rule of thumb to work with!
Just one problem - in Scotland I'd end up driving everywhere at about 30mph if restricted to 2000 revs until oil at 40deg....
smile

Joking aside, though, fair points re tighter reining of revs at each temperature. I guess it comes down to the driver's safety margin. I treat the maximums as "Absolutely don't do it. Ever." then work up gradually through the range, so probably not far off your guide in practice. But appreciate that both subsequent posts are more prudent guidance for the OP.

You have to love PH for this - every day's a school day.
Neil.

Pursyluv

1,948 posts

196 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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I thought it was a 3000 rpm limit until 60 degrees, but in winter cold air on the sensor makes it appear that you haven't got it; i've found the best way of judging the temperature in such conditions is to see what it reaches in traffic - on Sunday the air temp was about 5 degrees, after 15 minutes of running the oil was 54, in traffic it reached 65..........that i think gives a truer indication of the actual oil temperature.

cammy71

356 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Mattt said:
Stay 2 below oil temp, so 3k at 50, 4k at 60, 2k at 40 etc.
As above, but 2500 rpm until 40. startup c1250-1500 rpm for 10 secs to get oil flowing then head off

Hollowpockets

5,909 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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or just start it and drive off, be sensible until the oil hits 50+,up in scotland i never get above 55 on the oil

phoenixz

439 posts

188 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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Hollowpockets said:
or just start it and drive off, be sensible until the oil hits 50+,up in scotland i never get above 55 on the oil
im glad thats not just me, i havn't seen 60 since summer.

it could be a perception thing, but i find that turning on the heater to max and the fans to 1 light seems to warm up the oil temp a bit quicker. this could just be my perception though, i havn't cracked out a stop watch or anything

tang lung

Original Poster:

199 posts

275 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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I have not heard of oil heater plugs are they for extreme cold ? and are they fitted to the car , thanks once again guys for your help much appreciated :-))

blueg33

44,285 posts

246 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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tang lung said:
I have not heard of oil heater plugs are they for extreme cold ? and are they fitted to the car , thanks once again guys for your help much appreciated :-))
The oil heater is a pad that is attached to the bottom of the oil tank. The pad then plugs into a mains socket via a wire with a plug on it. When plugged in the pad gets hot and heats up the oil.

Google Wolverine oil heaters

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Done it for you. Wolverine

tang lung

Original Poster:

199 posts

275 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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blueg33 said:
The oil heater is a pad that is attached to the bottom of the oil tank. The pad then plugs into a mains socket via a wire with a plug on it. When plugged in the pad gets hot and heats up the oil.

Google Wolverine oil heaters

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Done it for you. Wolverine
Thank you very much Nick

obikaii

156 posts

181 months

Thursday 22nd November 2012
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phoenixz said:
im glad thats not just me, i havn't seen 60 since summer.

it could be a perception thing, but i find that turning on the heater to max and the fans to 1 light seems to warm up the oil temp a bit quicker. this could just be my perception though, i havn't cracked out a stop watch or anything
Even in the summer mine doesn't get above 55/60¤,I could do 20 /30 miles then sit in traffic for ages,& it wouldn't get anywhere near 70¤