Buyers Guide - Help

Buyers Guide - Help

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kentlad

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1,092 posts

184 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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Recently been looking at getting a new car to replace my fez, was looking at golf Gti's, focus St's, Megane 225's etc, then i had a thought..what about the car i've always wanted since i was a kid? Didn't think i could afford it but it turns out i can afford the insurance so i might as well entertain the thought...i am worried about how easy they are to steal though, should i be? It WON'T be kept in a locked garage.

Anyway! I'm after a bit of a buyers guide i suppose..

I can't make my mind up between the 'newer' shape & the 'older' shape. Anyone have a review for either? I'm looking at the WRX, don't think i could trust myself with an STI....yet & I'll be leaving the car completely standard for at least a year, if i ever modded it at all.

Any common problems to look out for on either shape or any positives/negatives for either shape?

HonestIago

1,719 posts

187 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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kentlad said:
Recently been looking at getting a new car to replace my fez, was looking at golf Gti's, focus St's, Megane 225's etc, then i had a thought..what about the car i've always wanted since i was a kid? Didn't think i could afford it but it turns out i can afford the insurance so i might as well entertain the thought...i am worried about how easy they are to steal though, should i be? It WON'T be kept in a locked garage.

Anyway! I'm after a bit of a buyers guide i suppose..

I can't make my mind up between the 'newer' shape & the 'older' shape. Anyone have a review for either? I'm looking at the WRX, don't think i could trust myself with an STI....yet & I'll be leaving the car completely standard for at least a year, if i ever modded it at all.

Any common problems to look out for on either shape or any positives/negatives for either shape?
All depends on budget. I love my classic but I'm sure a newage makes more sense from a reliability point of view. The blobeye WRX (2003-2005)would be the one to have IMO and many will agree I am sure. Even better if it has the Prodrive Performance Pack! Look for one with the usual low owners and full service history and I'm sure you won't go too far wrong.

paul555sti

219 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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kentlad said:
I'll be leaving the car completely standard for at least a year, if i ever modded it at all.
That will never happen! smile

If you can afford it get the sti cause one day you will start modding and then you will spend cash bringing the wrx up the sti level.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd November 2012
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paul555sti said:
kentlad said:
I'll be leaving the car completely standard for at least a year, if i ever modded it at all.
That will never happen! smile

If you can afford it get the sti cause one day you will start modding and then you will spend cash bringing the wrx up the sti level.
+1 Wot eee said every time!!

Unless you need the space in which case get a WRX Wagon. Much better than a 4dr WRX yes

kentlad

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

184 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Cheers for the advice chaps. If i end up taking the plunge early next year I'll whack a few photo's up.

I don't think i can convince myself that an STI is a good idea, the insurance at 23 is just a wee bit too steep, where as the wrx is coming out at a pretty reasonable price.

cheesesliceking

1,571 posts

241 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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check out insurance for a WRX with PPP, more poke and maybe less to insure than an STI smile

zombies

145 posts

156 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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For what its worth, my insurance said if I had not done the mods then it doesnt matter
I insured a 04 PPP wrx with Aviva
to help get a cheaper quote, get an online quote and wait for them to call you, usually the next day and try and get it lower

and, I dont think there is much difference between a year 2000 and 2004 driving wise


Edited by zombies on Friday 30th November 15:23

peter8171

183 posts

144 months

Saturday 1st December 2012
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As regards worry of theft, if it is a uk car, it will have a category 1 alarm and immobiliser. Seems that modern BMW's are. Easier to steal these days!

Never had any issues with mine in over 6 years. Lots of fun and quick even when standard......

peter8171

183 posts

144 months

Saturday 1st December 2012
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As regards worry of theft, if it is a uk car, it will have a category 1 alarm and immobiliser. Seems that modern BMW's are. Easier to steal these days!

Never had any issues with mine in over 6 years. Lots of fun and quick even when standard......

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Saturday 1st December 2012
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They are very rarely stolen. The insurance is high because they are crashed.
Cat 1 alarm immobiliser, and many were also fitted with trackers which may (or may not) help with insurance. Mine had a tracker fitted, and would have lowered insurance £50, but cost £150 to activate. I didn't bother.

kentlad

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

184 months

Monday 3rd December 2012
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I Had no idea about the Alarm & Immobiliser! Definitely another positive point to the ever growing list! Let the hunt begin!

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 3rd December 2012
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ScoobieWRX said:
+1 Wot eee said every time!!

Unless you need the space in which case get a WRX Wagon. Much better than a 4dr WRX yes
Please can people stop recommending wrx wagons especially with ppp?! It's driving me crazy trying to track one down. I currently make up 62.7% of all autotrader's traffic! type

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd December 2012
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Forget the PPP. Just get a nice normal unmolested and well looked after OK mileage WRX and get it modded, otherwise by the sounds of it you're going to be looking for the right PPP WRX for a bloody long time.

I understand why you want a PPP from an insurance point of view because many insurers recognised PPP as an actual model and may be easier to insure, however, modding/remapping a standard car and ending up with something that's way better than PPP but paying much the same for insurance has got to make a lot of sense.

You are possessed by PPP. The PPP in you needs to be exorcised!!

"The power of scoob compels you!!....The power of scoob compels you!!......The power of scoob compels you!!...Be gone PPP!!!!!!!" hurl

hehe

Edited by ScoobieWRX on Monday 3rd December 22:30

fake7

717 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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sorry for the hijacking/resurrection smile

I'm going to see a 2005 Impreza WRX tomorrow, and I've no experience with these!

is there anything particular to this model to look out for?

it's supposed to have fsh with a recent cambelt change, so i'll check this. It also has a large exhaust, but how can I tell if it's still got the main cat? ( is it in the downpipe after the manifold?) and is there any way of telling if it has other mods? reason for asking is I'm after a reasonably standard car as it will be my daily drive, so I don't need problems come MOT time!

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Main thing with a 2005 WRX is check its shocks work. They use an inverted strut and they lose lubrication and seize. It's almost inevitable that it will have happened by now. Any knocking, clunking or groaning should be treated with utmost suspicion. I found it particularly noticeable when making low speed manouveres, like parking up. Sounds like a diff is fked.

They're outrageous priice from Subaru £550 a corner, and going aftermarket of course means you have to change more than one ,and possibly all four.

They have 3 cats, one on the up pipe before the turbo, one on the down pipe, and the third n the mid-section. Ditching the pre turbo cat is a sensible move and won't affect MOT.

happy hunting!

fake7

717 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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thanks for the response - fingers crossed for later.

It's a low mileage car so maybe still has orignal shocks.

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Could be. There's no rhyme or reason to them failing. My mate had a 2006 car with them which failed at 10,000 miles. They WILL fail over time though, so make sure they're working now, or have been replaced with something sensible. That'll give you time to source replacements.

A nice check for originality is every door, the bonnet, the boot should have a little orange and grey sticker on it with the VIN on it - and obviously these should match each other and the car they're on.

Basically, everything electrical should work, it should drive straight and true, and pull well right through the rev range. No untowards noises from the drivetrain. They do lack sound deadening so you get a fair amount of road noise, but there should be any obvious groaning or whirring. Ride should be pretty good, loading up well in bends if it's on standard suspension, with perhaps a bit more body roll than you might expect. If it's had it's suspension overhauled though, all bets are off. It could have a thicker rear ARB on there to reduce understeer, or just some crazy geometry on it.
Check inside edges of front tyres, they tend to get worn first even if the middle/outside of the tyres looks fine.
Check the clutch holds well, and obviously service history and cambelt at 50k or 5 years in particular is an absolute must.
Brakes aren't that great as standard but should work well with firm pedal feel. If it's got "brembos" on it they're from an STi, a popular upgrade from the Sti's.