Kovalainen out?
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Bradgate

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3,200 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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It's very surprising and disappointing to hear that Heikki Kovalainen may not be in F1 next season.

Apparently Caterham won't be able to afford to pay his salary if they don't finish 10th in the constructors championship. They currently lie 11th due to Glock's 12th place finish in Singapore, the best finish by any of the 3 'new' teams in 2012. If Caterham don't match or beat this result in Brazil, they will be forced to replace Heikki with a pay driver.

Kovalainen has performed outstandingly over the last 3 seasons. He has destroyed his team mates, and deserves to be promoted up the grid, not forced out of F1. If this happens it will be a sad and worrying indication that money has become more important than talent for F1 teams outside the big 4.




davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Well, that was a fairly resigned interview he gave on the BBC. I think he's a bit fed up with the whole situation.

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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He could always take a smaller salary, he is competing for a seat against people who are willing to pay to drive.

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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EDLT said:
He could always take a smaller salary, he is competing for a seat against people who are willing to pay to drive.
I think that his attitude is going against him now. Wouldnt it be ironic if Kobayashi gets the drive because he has got up off his arse and realised that money talks.

Ahonen

5,032 posts

308 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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EDLT said:
He could always take a smaller salary, he is competing for a seat against people who are willing to pay to drive.
When a team actively needs £10m, offering to take a pay cut of a few thousand isn't the same.

scrwright

3,157 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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I liked his point that if you are paying for a drive you want to be in a Ferrari not a Caterham LOL

MarkwG

5,920 posts

218 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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EDLT said:
He could always take a smaller salary, he is competing for a seat against people who are willing to pay to drive.
It's his work, though & a cut wouldn't help, he would need to bring money in. He'd be better off finding a competitive drive in a different formula.

acf8181

797 posts

263 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Ahonen said:
EDLT said:
He could always take a smaller salary, he is competing for a seat against people who are willing to pay to drive.
When a team actively needs £10m, offering to take a pay cut of a few thousand isn't the same.
think its more a case that others bring the £10m where as he can't, rather than his salary

m444ttb

3,183 posts

258 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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He seems resigned to going. If I was listening properly then he said he wouldn't pay if he could and suggested the team didn't really have a plan!

rubystone

11,254 posts

288 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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m444ttb said:
He seems resigned to going. If I was listening properly then he said he wouldn't pay if he could and suggested the team didn't really have a plan!
I still think Kobayashi will get his drive...but Alguersari has been a bit quiet recently...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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rubystone said:
I still think Kobayashi will get his drive...but Alguersari has been a bit quiet recently...
Would like Jaime to get a ride. As for Heikki, never been overly impressed, to be honest.

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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As much as I know how tough the world of F1 is, I would be very disappointed if Heikki can't get a drive next season.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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MarkwG said:
He'd be better off finding a competitive drive in a different formula.
Tats my thoughts. I'm seeing a move to Nascar/DTM etc.

indigorallye

555 posts

254 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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It's a shame. And I think his attitude reflects the thoughts of most fans.
We want the best drivers, not those with the most money.

Fire99

9,865 posts

258 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Personally, I think he's been a bit of a revelation at Lotus Racing / Caterham. Many occasions I think he's driven the backside off the car and I'd say he is an asset to an F1 team. He wouldn't have driven for McLaren if he wasn't seriously fast.

F1's structure needs a good look if the grid is becoming more and more populated by drivers who can find the greatest funding for the team, rather than being one of the very best.

ajprice

33,262 posts

225 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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What spaces are left unconfirmed now? Both Williams, 1 Force India, 1 Lotus?

Bradgate

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3,200 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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From what I have read, Williams' drivers for 2013 are expected to be Maldonado and Valtteri Bottas, who is being hyped as the Next Big Thing. We'll see.

It would be great if Heikki could land one of the 2 remaining seats, but it looks like a long shot, sadly frown.

There have always been pay drivers in F1, (remember Pedro 'Parmalat' Diniz?) but they now seem to be pushing out some of the top guys.

The sport needs to address this situation, because the way things are going, fans could be looking at F1 in 5-7 years time and asking "Are these guys actually the best drivers in the world or not?"

stevesingo

5,035 posts

251 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Bradgate said:
From what I have read, Williams' drivers for 2013 are expected to be Maldonado and Valtteri Bottas, who is being hyped as the Next Big Thing. We'll see.

It would be great if Heikki could land one of the 2 remaining seats, but it looks like a long shot, sadly frown.

There have always been pay drivers in F1, (remember Pedro 'Parmalat' Diniz?) but they now seem to be pushing out some of the top guys.

The sport needs to address this situation, because the way things are going, fans could be looking at F1 in 5-7 years time and asking "Are these guys actually the best drivers in the world or not?"
The problem is Heikki refuses to raise money. I'm sure he could raise some money if he had started when he lost his McLaren drive. The problem is that Finland probably doesn't have the kind of businesses who have the money to fund F1 drivers.

South America, China Russia on the other hand.



ajprice

33,262 posts

225 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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stevesingo said:
The problem is Heikki refuses to raise money. I'm sure he could raise some money if he had started when he lost his McLaren drive. The problem is that Finland probably doesn't have the kind of businesses who have the money to fund F1 drivers.

South America, China Russia on the other hand.
He's had an Angry Birds design helmet all year, and a Heikki game version of AB, so there's a good relationship there with a big money making Finland based company. I don't know how much Rovio makes or whether what they would see as a reasonable donation would be enough to keep him going in F1.

DanielSan

19,991 posts

196 months

Sunday 25th November 2012
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Fire99 said:
Personally, I think he's been a bit of a revelation at Lotus Racing / Caterham. Many occasions I think he's driven the backside off the car and I'd say he is an asset to an F1 team. He wouldn't have driven for McLaren if he wasn't seriously fast.

F1's structure needs a good look if the grid is becoming more and more populated by drivers who can find the greatest funding for the team, rather than being one of the very best.
Completely agree. I honestly think Heikki got a raw deal at Mclaren, whether they said it in public or not, he was always number 2 to Lewis, he deserved a better chance.