M1 Crash

[shoestring7]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2242139/Tw...

God knows what happened to cause that much damage.

SS7
(sorry if a repost)

Edited by shoestring7 on Monday 3rd December 12:30

[Roo]

The report on the radio this morning said it was caused by ice on the road but reading that article I doubt it.

Also, how the hell do you get out of one of those cars after that crash and have a fight with someone.

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

Here's a clue:
Eyewitnesses claim to have seen two black BMWs racing as speeds ranging from 120mph to 140mph moments before the crash on the M1 near Watford, Hertfordshire.

+ Far from ideal conditions.

[750turbo]

More info.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/death-race-on-th...

[Jazzy Jefferson]

How do they know it was 140mph?

[JonnyFive]

A fight broke out after the smash? WTF was going on.

[Manicminer]

Jazzy Jefferson said:

How do they know it was 140mph?

Erm, there were survivors and I'd not be surprised to find the "witness" was also racing.

[Roo]

750turbo said:

More info.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/death-race-on-th...

Looks like some of those comments were written by PHers.

[scenario8]

Jazzy Jefferson said:

How do they know it was 140mph?

Let's not get overly upset by claims of specific speeds. We all know the driver who stated "about 140mph" and was reported as such will likely not have had his eyes calibrated. I think we can decide for ourselves, however, from the multiple witnesses to the events and from the state of the vehicles after the incident that the cars were travelling at quite a lick.

The fight? Traumatic scenes plus adrenalin plus emotional acquaintences/family/friends = odd behaviour. A lifeguard fried of mine was punched in the mouth by a parent when he saved a drowning child off Newquay.

[HustleRussell]

I'm relieved that the two people who perished and those injured were the occupants of the BMWs and not innocent motorists.

Edited by HustleRussell on Monday 3rd December 13:06

[buggalugs]

I always thought it was nearly impossible to kill yourself in something like a modern 5 series with all the electronics and airbags in there. But I guess it's not.

[Boydie88]

JonnyFive said:

A fight broke out after the smash? WTF was going on.

2 BMWs racing apparently.
Big smash.
Driver and passenger of one BMW killed on the scene.
Car 3 in their group arrived on the scene after stopping at a service station.
Occupants of car 3 blame driver of other BMW and then start fighting.

Very glad their stupidity hasn't resulted in innocent parties being involved. But still, Thoughts with the families of those killed and seriously injured - it's them who will suffer.

[Birdster]

R.I.P. Even if the racing claims are true and they do have themselves to blame - it's not a nice way to go.

I got caught in this on the way to work. Two hours late.

scenario8 said:

A lifeguard fried of mine was punched in the mouth by a parent when he saved a drowning child off Newquay.

What? Off topic I know, but how did that happen?

[scenario8]

Birdster said:

scenario8 said:

A lifeguard fried of mine was punched in the mouth by a parent when he saved a drowning child off Newquay.

What? Off topic I know, but how did that happen?

Emotional people act strangely. When lifesaving you're taught very early to proceed with extreme caution when attempting to rescue those in the water as very very frequently they will behave violently to you. Having seen quite a few parents behave strangely when returning a child to the shore I can imagine the scene easily enough.

I imagine emergency service personnel are taught caution when approaching the injured/victims/those in need of assistance. Most people very rarely find themselves in traumatic situations and will not necessarily behave "normally" or predictably.

[pops and bangs]

"It'll never happen to me" is unfortunately the mentality many people have in everyday life.

We all leave the house and expect to come back home, people feel "safe" in their big cars cruising at well over 100mph on motorways but all it takes is a split second mistake and you'll be scraped off the ground (don't mean to be insensitive).

I do drive briskly, and do overtake people on nsl roads etc but I'd like to think that I generally drive to the conditions.

It's not uncommon to see people booting it in heavy rain right up each others arses with little thought to the "what ifs" at the speed in the wet.

[edo]

7 series with Khan bling alloys. say no more.

[pops and bangs]

I can also understand the anger and emotion from passengers in the c-class.

The drivers are s to be fair, hopefully a positive comes from this crash and the people who survived might think twice about ever driving like that in the future when/if they get behind the wheel of a car.

[Birdster]

scenario8 said:

Birdster said:

scenario8 said:

A lifeguard fried of mine was punched in the mouth by a parent when he saved a drowning child off Newquay.

What? Off topic I know, but how did that happen?

Emotional people act strangely. When lifesaving you're taught very early to proceed with extreme caution when attempting to rescue those in the water as very very frequently they will behave violently to you. Having seen quite a few parents behave strangely when returning a child to the shore I can imagine the scene easily enough.

I imagine emergency service personnel are taught caution when approaching the injured/victims/those in need of assistance. Most people very rarely find themselves in traumatic situations and will not necessarily behave "normally" or predictably.

Thanks. Must be that "Get off of my child" thought process in a moment of panic. Then rational thoughts kick in and they realise what they've done.

Back to the OP, some others just strolled into work now. Big delays still.

[Sargeant Orange]

Another fatality on the M4 this morning, BRAKE's phones will be red hot

[Six Fiend]

Sargeant Orange said:

Another fatality on the M4 this morning, BRAKE's phones will be red hot

Yes those naughty trucks doing 56mph coming over the bridge again! Maniacs!