Bernie and Luca Di Montezemolo - Handbags at ten paces...
Bernie and Luca Di Montezemolo - Handbags at ten paces...
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davepoth

Original Poster:

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 3rd December 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20579360

Di Montezemolo said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
Bernie said:
The one thing he is correct about is my age - there is no doubt about that. I can't do anything about that. I'm 82 years old and that's how it is.

I suppose it's the same sort of thing that's happened to him recently in politics, where people have been quite rude about him. He says he doesn't remember what he says very often. Luca is not as old as me. I'm sure in his case it is nothing to do with his age because he's always been the same. At least he's consistent. God knows what's going to happen when he's 82.

No, Luca is a lovely guy, I'm probably as a big a supporter of him as anybody. I am a big admirer of Luca's and I'm sorry for all the trouble he's had with politics recently. He should never have got involved in the first place.
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Derek Smith

49,670 posts

277 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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The FIA's AGM is about to start and the main point of interest will be who comes out on top. The teams, whilst there is no FOCA, seem to be more or less united on some aspects. Todt is marginalised - he has no money - so is of little consequence.

However, this little spat pre the meeting is quite unusual. As Ecclestone suggests, why wasn't this all done 'behind closed doors'? That is better put as 'why wasn't this done as normal'. A public spat is hardly what F1 is known for.

There are tough times ahead regarding the negotiations on the new forumla. I'm with Luca on the point of less aerodynamics.

tonytifoso

1,385 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Strange indeed as both BCE & LDM make Macchiavelli seem amateurish at times. Neither opens their gob without reason.

+ another 1 for less aero dependancy/trickery. Oh and the exhaust should exit at the rearmost part of the car with zero effect on a wing/gurney/upturn/downturn/slot/hole/etc.

Edited by tonytifoso on Tuesday 4th December 10:08

Nick1point9

3,920 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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tonytifoso said:
+ another 1 for less aero dependancy/trickery. Oh and the exhaust should exit at the rearmost part of the car with zero effect on a wing/gurney/upturn/downturn/slot/hole/etc.
Wave goodbye to 20bhp...

FourWheelDrift

92,237 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.

EFA smile

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.

EFA smile
another failed politician...

tonytifoso

1,385 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Nick1point9 said:
tonytifoso said:
+ another 1 for less aero dependancy/trickery. Oh and the exhaust should exit at the rearmost part of the car with zero effect on a wing/gurney/upturn/downturn/slot/hole/etc.
Wave goodbye to 20bhp...
So what?

Look at MotoGP, it's a shadow of its former self. Moto 2 & 3 is where the "Racing" is and is a truly enjoyable spectacle for us petrolheads. If restructuring the rules to make F1 cars a bit less like flightless planes and more like a platform which enables the "drivers"( Alonso, Hamilton, Raikkonen, et al) to show their skills off to the maximum entertainment of us, the paying fans, bring it on.

Derek Smith

49,670 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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The problem is that no one is pushing for spectacle. The most influential teams want to ensure that their superiority remains, so aero, the big gap, remains. Todt has no say and Ecclestone's normal concern for the spectator will, if anything, reduce now that he's trying to sell the sport.


Rouleur

7,415 posts

218 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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The only high-up person in F1 who's ever shown a real interest in putting on a good show is Flavio, but then of course he's never been a racing man really.

I wonder if he could do Bernie's job? I'm only half joking!

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Scuffers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.

EFA smile
another failed politician...
If LdM is your idea of a failure Id love to see your idea of success!!

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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DJRC said:
Scuffers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.

EFA smile
another failed politician...
If LdM is your idea of a failure Id love to see your idea of success!!
not my idea, the simple fact is he is not president, thus failed.

that kind of makes an interesting comparison with Mr Berlusconi....

tonytifoso

1,385 posts

252 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Politics in Italy is, was and always shall be a career choice best avoided. All my relatives admired this country for the honesty and integrity of our politicians eek

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Scuffers said:
DJRC said:
Scuffers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
65 year old Luca Di Montezemolo who is also now a pensioner and past the age of retirement in Italy said:
We must respect the elderly, especially when they can no longer control their words. Seniority is often incompatible with certain roles and responsibilities.
I agree with him. He should retire too.

EFA smile
another failed politician...
If LdM is your idea of a failure Id love to see your idea of success!!
not my idea, the simple fact is he is not president, thus failed.

that kind of makes an interesting comparison with Mr Berlusconi....
President of Ferrari. Thats about as political as it gets in Italy!

He probably holds more power than anybody in Italy outside of Sergio.

Unless you were under some kind of mistaken illusion that the nominal national politicians are in power in Italy? But then I presume you wouldnt be that daft to think that...