Good snow tyre - but not a "winter tyre"
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Speaking from personal experience Firestone Firehawk SZ90.. http://www.firestone.eu/en/car/sz90 .. were surprisingly very good in the snow last year..only needed to use snow socks once...as opposed to countless times on Goodyear Eagle F1s.
I have just Replaced the excellent and great value Hankook W300 with new W310.
I have a heavy RWD car and all season tyres help but just aren't up to the job in snow they are just too much of a compromise. Outright winter tyres gives the best traction in snow but tend to be poor in the wet and dry and are low speed rated.
I usually have performance winter tyres, not as good as outright snow tyres but still very good and have reasonable amount of handling in the wet and dry. So they work in the colder october/november months as well as helping to get us to the French ski resorts in winter. Still have chains.....just in case.
I have a heavy RWD car and all season tyres help but just aren't up to the job in snow they are just too much of a compromise. Outright winter tyres gives the best traction in snow but tend to be poor in the wet and dry and are low speed rated.
I usually have performance winter tyres, not as good as outright snow tyres but still very good and have reasonable amount of handling in the wet and dry. So they work in the colder october/november months as well as helping to get us to the French ski resorts in winter. Still have chains.....just in case.
cobra kid said:
I'm looking for a pair of tyres for the Golf that will be good in snow. The thing is, I don't want to have to buy winter tyres and swap them again in the spring.
Any recommendations as to a good all rounder??
Thanks.
You don't have to take winter tyres off in the spring if you don't want to.Any recommendations as to a good all rounder??
Thanks.
Hugo a Gogo said:
no non-winter tyre will be 'good' in the snow
an all-season tyre will be ok, but a winter will be better
Vredestein Quatracs are quite good, and cheap, Goodyear Vector are better and dearer
I dispute the second sentence in your post, Hugo.an all-season tyre will be ok, but a winter will be better
Vredestein Quatracs are quite good, and cheap, Goodyear Vector are better and dearer
I've got all-seasons on two of my cars and I can tell you 100% for definite that they ARE very good in snow, not merely "ok". In fact I seem to recall seeing somewhere lately a test showing that Goodyear Vectors coming out as good as full-on snowies.
(I have Kleber Quadraxers on a V70 and Goodyear Vectors on a C1 - I only got stuck once last year up a steep single track road in the Pennines and that was when the snow simply got too deep for the tiny C1 and it couldn't push through. In my experience they are truly excellent and I'd fit them to everything if I could get the sizes (they don't do 40 profile 18 inchers, sadly).)
Dog Star said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
no non-winter tyre will be 'good' in the snow
an all-season tyre will be ok, but a winter will be better
Vredestein Quatracs are quite good, and cheap, Goodyear Vector are better and dearer
I dispute the second sentence in your post, Hugo.an all-season tyre will be ok, but a winter will be better
Vredestein Quatracs are quite good, and cheap, Goodyear Vector are better and dearer
I've got all-seasons on two of my cars and I can tell you 100% for definite that they ARE very good in snow, not merely "ok". In fact I seem to recall seeing somewhere lately a test showing that Goodyear Vectors coming out as good as full-on snowies.
Evo rated the Vredstein Quattracs (all season) ahead of two dedicated winter tyres overall in their last Winter Tyre test, and personally I have found them to be excellent in the snow.
well, I have used Quatrac 3s in quite deep snow, I had trouble getting out of my own street, then slid at the end of the road
my own incompetence aside, I didn't think they were THAT good, not as good as some winters I've used, any reviews I've seen have backed that up, braking distances and handling in snow not as good as 'proper' winters
edit: but yes, a good all-season could easily be better than a crap winter
my own incompetence aside, I didn't think they were THAT good, not as good as some winters I've used, any reviews I've seen have backed that up, braking distances and handling in snow not as good as 'proper' winters
edit: but yes, a good all-season could easily be better than a crap winter
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Tuesday 4th December 10:24
cobra kid said:
I'm looking for a pair of tyres for the Golf that will be good in snow. The thing is, I don't want to have to buy winter tyres and swap them again in the spring.
Any recommendations as to a good all rounder??
You mention a pair, last time I looked, Golf's had four wheels...... Any recommendations as to a good all rounder??

All seasons arn't that good in snow, better than normal summers yes, but, still nowhere near as good as winters.
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