Sunday morning religious program.................
Discussion
On one of those Sunday morning programs a the weekend, there was a woman on who's written a book about her life after killing someone in her car.
Aparently, she been driving 10MPH over the speed limit, and admitted to not taking any due care or attention when a 77 year old woman walked straight out in front of her. Bang - dead. (or dead a few days later, can't remember which)
The moral of the story is, we must all slow down.
?????????? have I missed something here?
This was 33 years ago by the way.
Aparently, she been driving 10MPH over the speed limit, and admitted to not taking any due care or attention when a 77 year old woman walked straight out in front of her. Bang - dead. (or dead a few days later, can't remember which)
The moral of the story is, we must all slow down.
?????????? have I missed something here?
This was 33 years ago by the way.
bryan35 said:
Aparently, she been driving 10MPH over the speed limit, and admitted to not taking any due care or attention when a 77 year old woman walked straight out in front of her.
Well, if she genuinely wasn't taking due care and attention then there might be some fault there. It may be that the extra 10mph was as a result of not taking due care, but the cause should be considered to be the lack of care and not the speed itself.
I wonder how the deceased feel about this woman publically making money out of telling the world that she was driving without due care when she killed their relative.
She might appear to be telling the world that speeding doesn't pay - except for the number of people who buy her (undoubtedly not free) book, will of course be paying her a nice little earner.
Yours,
not convinced
She might appear to be telling the world that speeding doesn't pay - except for the number of people who buy her (undoubtedly not free) book, will of course be paying her a nice little earner.
Yours,
not convinced
I saw part of this, yes someone walked out in front of her, cant be helped. I heard her describe how she had passed a side road that a motorist had overshot, and she was looking in her mirror as she passed the side road to see what had happened, then BANG!
Because she wasnt looking ahead, and she was doing 39mph, she feels responsible. Again fair enough.
Funny how the government have decided that doing up to 39mph in a 30 mph zone is now considered not too bad.
Personally I feel the strongest penalties should be for speeding in 20-30-40 zones, which is precisely where idiots beyond your control are most likely to walk out/drive into you. What I dont understand is the fixation with high speeds on the open road, which is relatively safe due to the absence of pedestrians/vehicles to interact with.
Because she wasnt looking ahead, and she was doing 39mph, she feels responsible. Again fair enough.
Funny how the government have decided that doing up to 39mph in a 30 mph zone is now considered not too bad.
Personally I feel the strongest penalties should be for speeding in 20-30-40 zones, which is precisely where idiots beyond your control are most likely to walk out/drive into you. What I dont understand is the fixation with high speeds on the open road, which is relatively safe due to the absence of pedestrians/vehicles to interact with.
Balmoral Green said:
Personally I feel the strongest penalties should be for speeding in 20-30-40 zones, which is precisely where idiots beyond your control are most likely to walk out/drive into you. What I dont understand is the fixation with high speeds on the open road, which is relatively safe due to the absence of pedestrians/vehicles to interact with.
I agree. NSLs should be derestricted to allow drivers to drive in accordance with conditions rather than to an arbitrary number -- which may lead to both lower and higher speeds. In-town limits are more critical because of the idiots.
I wonder whether the fixation on open roads is due to the voter numbers? There is an increasing number of people who don't (daren't?) go much above 40 in NSLs yet drive above the limits in towns. These numpties are the more dangerous drivers but are also a sizable number. Better for the government to target the minority of "hooligans who drive fast" than the numpties who vote for it.
Perhaps therefore the numbers of numpties now being done for speeding is one reason why the government has been panicked into modifying the speeding points. It's not about improving road safety in towns, but keeping the numpty voters onside.
Isn't it insidious this campaiging of slowing down.
A couple of years ago on here we would have been campaigning for appropriate speed limits, now we just want harsher penalties for those exceeding the lower speed limits.
Lets prove speeding is unsafe.
Lets set appropriate speed limits.
Lets enforce them with common sense.
A couple of years ago on here we would have been campaigning for appropriate speed limits, now we just want harsher penalties for those exceeding the lower speed limits.
Lets prove speeding is unsafe.
Lets set appropriate speed limits.
Lets enforce them with common sense.
voyds9 said:
Isn't it insidious this campaiging of slowing down.
A couple of years ago on here we would have been campaigning for appropriate speed limits, now we just want harsher penalties for those exceeding the lower speed limits.
Lets prove speeding is unsafe.
Lets set appropriate speed limits.
Lets enforce them with common sense.
You cant prove speeding is unsafe, because speeding per se is not unsafe.
You cant set appropriate speed limits, because the appropriate limit varies with conditions.
Lets enforce good driving with common sense, and reduce the fixation with numerical speed.
V8 Archie - on 30th June - said:
Woman's Hour today had an interesting interview with some woman who ran over and killed a pedestrian on a crossing. The main thrust of it was about just how hard it is to come to terms with having done something like that. The woman's description of the incident went something along the lines of "I saw a taxi decanting passengers and for some reason became fixated with it so I was looking at it in the rear-view mirror once I'd passed it. Because I wasn't looking at the road ahead I ploughed into the pedestrian". Almost the whole interview went by without anyone mentioning speed, and then Jenny Murray went and messed it up by saying something like "were you constantly imagining how things might have been different if you'd been looking where you were going, not speeding...".
I nearly threw the radio out of the car in rage.
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