Thursday rant....Fog lights (Again i know!)
Discussion
I apologies for ranting so openly in public but I have a solution to my issue and wondered why its never been done.
So yesterday was the first sign of winter.
I woke up (in central east Anglia) to around 5-6mm (1/4") of snow.
It was still dark but clear with good visibility.
Imagine my early morning rage at a car pulling on the DC in front of me only to blind me with its rear fog lights.
No fog, No mist just tiny amounts of snow on the very edge of the road (It had joined from the local town which was also clear).
I got fed up of being dazzled (remember it was still pitch black) and overtook. To find that the front fogs where on too.
Amazed that "daylight fog lights" are now seen to be used as "any time slightly out of the ordinary weather lights" I pressed on only to come up on two other muppets with fog lights on!
My solution....
Why don't car manufacturers fit a tiny light sensor costing a few pence so that below a certain light level (fog will make no difference to this) the fog lights will not come on?
So yesterday was the first sign of winter.
I woke up (in central east Anglia) to around 5-6mm (1/4") of snow.
It was still dark but clear with good visibility.
Imagine my early morning rage at a car pulling on the DC in front of me only to blind me with its rear fog lights.
No fog, No mist just tiny amounts of snow on the very edge of the road (It had joined from the local town which was also clear).
I got fed up of being dazzled (remember it was still pitch black) and overtook. To find that the front fogs where on too.
Amazed that "daylight fog lights" are now seen to be used as "any time slightly out of the ordinary weather lights" I pressed on only to come up on two other muppets with fog lights on!
My solution....
Why don't car manufacturers fit a tiny light sensor costing a few pence so that below a certain light level (fog will make no difference to this) the fog lights will not come on?
Bear Phils said:
What about driving in fog at night?
There is usually a reason car's don't have something these days usually relating to safety, cost and how useful it would actually be.
Fog lights are intended to help other see you. They offer no additional visibility which is why i stuggle to understand why so man tools drive with the fronts on ALL THE FRICKIN TIME!There is usually a reason car's don't have something these days usually relating to safety, cost and how useful it would actually be.
At night regular lights do a good enough job highlighting your there.
Things may have changed but when learning to drive on the road (1994) my instructor told me they where for daylight use only.
richb77 said:
I woke up (in central east Anglia) to around 5-6mm (1/4") of snow.
Where abouts out of interest? I joined the A12 at East Bergholt at 8am and got to my desk in Colchester (8 miles away) at 10:30. Absolutely ridiculous.As for the foggies, I honestly think some people just forget they're on. They obviously just don't look at the dashboard and wonder what half the lights mean.
richb77 said:
Fog lights are intended to help other see you. They offer no additional visibility which is why i stuggle to understand why so man tools drive with the fronts on ALL THE FRICKIN TIME!
At night regular lights do a good enough job highlighting your there.
Things may have changed but when learning to drive on the road (1994) my instructor told me they where for daylight use only.
From personal experience, I don't think standard headlights do a good enough job in proper fog, not the light mist that makes people panic and put their fogs on. Every bit of extra warning in these conditions helps.At night regular lights do a good enough job highlighting your there.
Things may have changed but when learning to drive on the road (1994) my instructor told me they where for daylight use only.
Otherwise there are two reasons eejits have them on during the day:
1. They think they look cool
2. They don't even realise they are on
SuperchargedVR6 said:
richb77 said:
I woke up (in central east Anglia) to around 5-6mm (1/4") of snow.
Where abouts out of interest? I joined the A12 at East Bergholt at 8am and got to my desk in Colchester (8 miles away) at 10:30. Absolutely ridiculous.As for the foggies, I honestly think some people just forget they're on. They obviously just don't look at the dashboard and wonder what half the lights mean.
Front fogs DO help in severe fog- although these conditions are rarely ever seen in the UK. The official highway code states they should only be on when visibility is limited to less than 100m (although this counts for rears also).
Drives me absolutely bonkers too. I'm sorry but if someone's behind me with fogs on, I flick my rear fog on to alert them (in case they've left it on) and if they don't get turned off, I leave my rear fogs on. Why the hell should they be allowed to blind everyone else? Same goes for full beam flash/ on when they blind me coming towards my car.
Absolute tools. Apart from anything else it's dangerous, on a country road you end up completely dazzled and not being able to see the (already narrow and muddy/ icy) road.
Drives me absolutely bonkers too. I'm sorry but if someone's behind me with fogs on, I flick my rear fog on to alert them (in case they've left it on) and if they don't get turned off, I leave my rear fogs on. Why the hell should they be allowed to blind everyone else? Same goes for full beam flash/ on when they blind me coming towards my car.
Absolute tools. Apart from anything else it's dangerous, on a country road you end up completely dazzled and not being able to see the (already narrow and muddy/ icy) road.
ker thread.What makes me laugh is that it appears to be a massive, life changing event to select the "one use only" fog light switch.... It's almost as if it gets used, that's it, it WILL remain on for the duration of the journey, regardless of if the weather lifts or visability improves!
Why not just turn it on & off as required? A lot of the time I will have mine on if the fog/mist is around but no one is following, just for a bit of extra vis, but if I overtake someone & it's clear that they can see a safe distance, turn it off!
All comes down to the general stupidity of the British sheeple I'm afraid
Why not just turn it on & off as required? A lot of the time I will have mine on if the fog/mist is around but no one is following, just for a bit of extra vis, but if I overtake someone & it's clear that they can see a safe distance, turn it off!
All comes down to the general stupidity of the British sheeple I'm afraid
I'm annoyed by people using rear fog lights in front of me(especially on motorways), when 10s of cars are visible 100s of metres in front.
Only twice in about 20 years have I experienced serious fog of the sort that is a struggle to know which direction the road is going in, not a bit of slight mist signified by "FOG" on the matrix signs.
I'm also annoyed by the people driving cars on wet, spray-covered motorways with side lights only.
Only twice in about 20 years have I experienced serious fog of the sort that is a struggle to know which direction the road is going in, not a bit of slight mist signified by "FOG" on the matrix signs.
I'm also annoyed by the people driving cars on wet, spray-covered motorways with side lights only.
richb77 said:
Why don't car manufacturers fit a tiny light sensor costing a few pence so that below a certain light level (fog will make no difference to this) the fog lights will not come on?
And why don't YOU post on one of the elevnty billion threads already running on the subject?
i think this rant thread is totally relevant.
night after night at work, it just seems to get worse. its not just cars anymore either, sadly just as many lorries at it aswell, (i mean with reference to factory fitted fogs on the trucks.)
the sheer stupidity of people not being able to use the correct lighting on their vehicle, for the relevant conditions never ceases to amaze me. you see it all at this time of year, front fogs on, but with sidelights??? w.t.f is that all about.
surely if you feel the need for front fogs, you would then definetly need your dipped headlights aswell. or am i wrong?
then theres the muppet who has a headlight out, so uses the front fogs to aid their vision, whilst annoying and maybe blinding everyone else, (or us saddos.)
do you think that these people that insist on having front and rear fogs on in perfectly clear conditions, are the same people that don't have them on when we do have poor visibility that warrants their use.
with reference, the front left/right fogs coming on when turning a corner, some truck manufacturers are fitting this now aswell. stupid idea.
i think that sometimes, people, (idiots) park up at the end of a journey, turn their main lights off and go about their business. on their next trip, lights on when needed, (or when they feel like it) and even though its clear, and the dash lights are telling them that the fogs are on, they are totally oblivious to this.
do any vehicles have a system that cancels the fogs when the ignition is turned off?
it would surely make sense, and would eliminate a percentage of the idiots when they go out on their next journey, (maybe).
night after night at work, it just seems to get worse. its not just cars anymore either, sadly just as many lorries at it aswell, (i mean with reference to factory fitted fogs on the trucks.)
the sheer stupidity of people not being able to use the correct lighting on their vehicle, for the relevant conditions never ceases to amaze me. you see it all at this time of year, front fogs on, but with sidelights??? w.t.f is that all about.
surely if you feel the need for front fogs, you would then definetly need your dipped headlights aswell. or am i wrong?
then theres the muppet who has a headlight out, so uses the front fogs to aid their vision, whilst annoying and maybe blinding everyone else, (or us saddos.)
do you think that these people that insist on having front and rear fogs on in perfectly clear conditions, are the same people that don't have them on when we do have poor visibility that warrants their use.
with reference, the front left/right fogs coming on when turning a corner, some truck manufacturers are fitting this now aswell. stupid idea.
i think that sometimes, people, (idiots) park up at the end of a journey, turn their main lights off and go about their business. on their next trip, lights on when needed, (or when they feel like it) and even though its clear, and the dash lights are telling them that the fogs are on, they are totally oblivious to this.
do any vehicles have a system that cancels the fogs when the ignition is turned off?
it would surely make sense, and would eliminate a percentage of the idiots when they go out on their next journey, (maybe).
richb77 said:
Fog lights are intended to help other see you. They offer no additional visibility which is why i stuggle to understand why so man tools drive with the fronts on ALL THE FRICKIN TIME!
Please don't talk rubbish. One can only assume that you have never driven on an unlit and unmarked rural road in the middle of the night in very dense fog. If you had then you would know that they do a pretty sterling job of illuminating the edges of the road so you can see where the tarmac ends and the ditch starts. For all other situations then I wholeheartedly agree with you.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff