Strange bulb issue - any experts???
Strange bulb issue - any experts???
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Ray Luxury-Yacht

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8,918 posts

246 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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I have a 2001 Octavia VRS. It has quite large headlamp units, containing a normal 55/60w H4 bulb, and a small 5w capless sidelamp bulb.

Recently, on the off-side unit, the sidelamp bulb had become noticeably dimmer than the nearside. I put it down to old bulbs.

I bought a nice pair of Bosch replacements, because I'm anal like that and I need symmetry in my lamps, Godammit! biggrin


When I removed the old bulbs, the off-side one had become darkened inside the glass for some reason. When I replaced them with the new ones, all was fine again.

Until about two months later - and now the off-side sidelamp bulb has AGAIN gone dim with the same issue.


What gives?? confused


BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Just had this with the wifes car. One blown side lamp bulb but all I could get was a twin pack. Changed the dead one and with an open pack thought I may as well do the other side. Whilst working it was quite black.
I put it down to being on its way out?

CoolHands

23,526 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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bad earth would be the likely culprit, I believe.

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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In some failure modes, 501 sidelight bulbs like that do start to darken gradually, almost as if they're filling with smoke. When one had blown and I was replacing a pair, I'd often find the still-live one was starting to darken in that way and took it as an indication that it didn't have long left.

I haven't known a new-ish bulb start to do it, only on one side of the car, though. Usually this would be a more immediate failure. Quite odd. I would leave it alone for a while and see if it blows again. Some cars (I mean individual examples, rather than by model) do have a propensity to kill off one particular bulb more often than they should. Usually seems to be due to earthing problems, but like I said, I haven't known them cause this darkening, they tend to just blow things at a stroke.

SMGB

790 posts

169 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Its the element running hot and boiling off then condensing on the glass. a high resistance earth cant cause this, but an intemittent one would. When a filament is cold it has a lower resistance so you get a current inrush, thats why light bulbs often go "ping" as you switch on. So a cycle of losing contact, making again and current spikes would do this. I would try cleaning the socket and maybe tweaking it a bit to get better contact if possible.

littleredrooster

6,391 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Blackened bulbs are an indication that they have leaked air into them, I believe. Straightforward bulb failure.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

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8,918 posts

246 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Hmmm, ok - so might be worth checking the block connector to the unit and doing an earth continuity / resistance check?


normalbloke

8,903 posts

249 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Hmmm, ok - so might be worth checking the block connector to the unit and doing an earth continuity / resistance check?
I'd check the plug, it may well be causing a tiny area if high resistance or even arcing and the associated high temp being transferred into the bulb?

Ray Luxury-Yacht

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Thursday 6th December 2012
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normalbloke said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Hmmm, ok - so might be worth checking the block connector to the unit and doing an earth continuity / resistance check?
I'd check the plug, it may well be causing a tiny area if high resistance or even arcing and the associated high temp being transferred into the bulb?
Could be, couldn't it mate?

I'll have a butchers tomorrow smile