new clutch, is this normal?
new clutch, is this normal?
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gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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I had a new clutch fitted 2 weeks or 400miles ago. At first it felt really light and soft which I liked. But now seems to have stiffened up again. Is this normal after bedding in?

Triumph Man

9,615 posts

198 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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I don't know to be honest, but thank yourself lucky you aren't me: Me and dad put a new clutch in the Triumph, only to find 2 days later the new clutch release bearing was a faulty item and was squealing like a pig...

catman

2,504 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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I wouldn't expect a sudden change like that. Is it a cable operated clutch?

Tim

gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Thanks for the reply, I have no.idea lol its a 2008 a4

gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Thanks for the reply, I have no.idea lol its a 2008 a4

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Triumph Man said:
I don't know to be honest, but thank yourself lucky you aren't me: Me and dad put a new clutch in the Triumph, only to find 2 days later the new clutch release bearing was a faulty item and was squealing like a pig...
Forget that for unlucky, my housemate changed the clutch in his 2.8 A4. It then suffered an unrelated but catastrophic engine failure six miles afterwards, and is now only good for breaking..

gregpot2000

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Sunday 9th December 2012
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Ouch, how old is the car?

philmots

4,666 posts

290 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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I'm almost certain it will be hydraulic in the at.

It could simply need bleeding.

gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Thanks, is this an awkward job or quite quick and do it while I wait?

gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Thanks for all your replies.

I have just rung the garage now, obviously it’s hard for him to tell without actually looking at it, but he suggested that it may be normal, as when it’s being changed they use a lot of grease and lubricant, and this will make it feel really light, as the clutch beds in some of this will wear away and this will make it stiffen up to the level it will stay at.

Does this sound plausible?

I am going to drop it off for him to look at tomorrow morning though.

I paid £940 for a new clutch and DMF, and I was thinking yeah that’s a lot, but a new clutch will make the car drive like a brand new car, so at least it felt like I was benefiting in some way, but now that the clutch feels exactly the same as it did before, I kind of feel “cheated” lol. They have done the job I asked, and my Flywheel rattles are gone. But it just seems the reason I used to justify the expense in my head doesn't exist any more!

catman

2,504 posts

205 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I doubt that they use "a lot of grease and lubricant," as it would probably end up on the clutch plates, which wouldn't help very much!

Tim

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I've actually had similar symptoms to this - although it was a very different car (Fiat Punto). First few days the pedal was amazingly light etc, almost too light, but then it progressively stiffened to what it was like before then stayed like that.

98elise

32,663 posts

191 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I had the clutch in the Mondeo done recently. It definately felt very light afterwards. It feels normal now, but that could just be me getting used to it.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

248 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Triumph Man said:
I don't know to be honest, but thank yourself lucky you aren't me: Me and dad put a new clutch in the Triumph, only to find 2 days later the new clutch release bearing was a faulty item and was squealing like a pig...
Me and my old man replaced a clutch on the Morris Minor, except he fitted it (not me!) the wrong way round, which was only apparent once we'd reattached the engine and tried pressing the clutch down when running the engine. Cue scary knocking noises from the gearbox laugh

snotrag

15,667 posts

241 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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gregpot2000 said:
I had a new clutch fitted 2 weeks or 400miles ago. At first it felt really light and soft which I liked. But now seems to have stiffened up again. Is this normal after bedding in?
Normal.

Also bear in mind - you drove into the garage with a fked clutch. You didnt know how heavy it was, because you were used to do it. It felt normal.

You drove out thinking 'woah! thats a light clutch!' and it felt weird. You were also thinking 'Wow, I did0n't realise how bad the old one was till now!'.


Now you've been using it a few weeks, its back to feeling 'normal' again.


It happens, I've done the same on 3 cars. I wouldnt worry too much about it, get him to check it doesnt need bleeding, but I wouldn't be particularly worried. Its in your head.

gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Thanks for the advice.

It just stands out as the last time I had a new clutch was on my Astra a few years ago, it was stiff before I took it in, it was then changed and it felt really light and easy to use which I loved, especially in traffic, it then stayed like this for a year later until I sold it with no noticeable difference. So I just expected this would be the same and I would get to use a nice light clutch for at least a year or until I sold the car.
So to have it go back to “normal” stiffness, and feel no different to the old one just feels odd to me after only 2 weeks.

I just want my clutch to be light, and stay light lol cos it really makes it a pleasure to use in traffic

And final question I promise! How long does it take to bleed the clutch?

I am going to take it at 8am tomorrow, and I need to be at work for between 9:00 and 9:30, is this something that could be done in an hour?
Otherwise I will have to leave the car with them and be a bus w*nker for the day, bit inconvenient, but needs must I guess! Just wanting to be prepared really


Edited by gregpot2000 on Monday 10th December 15:13


Edited by gregpot2000 on Monday 10th December 15:36

gregpot2000

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309 posts

174 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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UPDATE:

I tried the clutch last night in my mates 61 plate A4, which is pretty much exactly the same car as mine, apart from being 3 years newer. And to be honest the clutch felt pretty much the same stiffness as mine! So this put my mind at ease.
I then took the car to the garage today, and his first words were and you think that’s stiff? Lol, to be honest, maybe it isn't overly stiff, I mean if I were to let someone else drive it they wouldn't even probably comment on it, it’s just I was expecting it to stay feather light like when it was first fitted. He took it for a test drive, and said he honestly didn’t think there was a problem, but that I should keep an eye on it, and if it does get worst he would have no problem in taking it back and having a look.
His explanation was that the release bearing is greased when fitting, and this can give it a super light feel, as it beds in then this grease will be dispersed to normal levels so it will stiffen up slightly, but it will then stay like that for good then.

I think maybe I just had unrealistic expectation levels, I think he is genuine, as he said if it gets worse he will take It back no problem, and my mates 61 plate feels pretty much the same, this added to the fact that if I let someone off the street drive it, they probably wouldn't even pick up on it feeling stiff, makes me think I just need to get used to it really.