Subaru owners / ex owners - post mortem
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Seeing as we are partly to blame for Subarus demise... I wondered if we cold nail the reasons for them pulling out once and for all
Preferably the badge snobs and loons stay away, would be cool to get it from the horses mouth.... ( we all know that some people didn't 'get' the car )
My reasons for me not buying lately
-Subaru UKs decision to try and distance themselves from the rally rep ( spoiler deletion) peed me off..
-numb looking design
-company car tax
( I bought new in 2002, a 2005 in 2006, and an 02 'toy' in 2010 )
Preferably the badge snobs and loons stay away, would be cool to get it from the horses mouth.... ( we all know that some people didn't 'get' the car )
My reasons for me not buying lately
-Subaru UKs decision to try and distance themselves from the rally rep ( spoiler deletion) peed me off..
-numb looking design
-company car tax
( I bought new in 2002, a 2005 in 2006, and an 02 'toy' in 2010 )
The owner of the garage I use has the new impreza in saloon form with four exhaust pipes. I think it's the best looking, sorry, only good looking impreza. My ex wife had the five door variant which was a minger, but it suited her.
I really like the new four doors, really like them. I don't like the road tax price.
I really like the new four doors, really like them. I don't like the road tax price.
i had a jap import STi
subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
Fleckers said:
i had a jap import STi
subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
To be fair though, that's the stance of most dealers if you have an unofficially imported car.subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
Liquid Tuna said:
Fleckers said:
i had a jap import STi
subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
To be fair though, that's the stance of most dealers if you have an unofficially imported car.subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
Best thing to do if you own an import is find the part number of the item you want and just quote that rather than the specific model. If the dealer gets pissy try another, shortsighted in the extreme on the part of the dealer to get arsey about ordering parts because your car's an import.
Edited by Marf on Saturday 15th December 15:29
Marf said:
Liquid Tuna said:
Fleckers said:
i had a jap import STi
subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
To be fair though, that's the stance of most dealers if you have an unofficially imported car.subaru UK were a bunch a swear words when I had the car, even something simple like locking wheel nuts and a top rad hose
apparently were special order from Japan and would take 6 weeks and may not fit
funny cos a mate with a UK car got the bits for me over the counter and shockingly they fitted perfectly
Best thing to do if you own an import is find the part number of the item you want and just quote that rather than the specific model. If the dealer gets pissy try another, shortsighted in the extreme on the part of the dealer to get arsey about ordering parts because your car's an import.
Edited by Marf on Saturday 15th December 15:29
I had a 2001 wrx for about 6 years, and then moved on to a BMW. A replacement scooby was never on the cards due to cost and concerns at the time over the chocolate 2.5 block which IM didn't seem interested in sorting.
It was a good call, the BMW is a far better car, I only miss the burble and the boot.
It was a good call, the BMW is a far better car, I only miss the burble and the boot.
Biggest issue with the dealers recently was that the last 3 I've been to have been dual franchise and so have had no Subarus available to look at, let alone test drive! How were people supposed to buy a Subaru if you can't see one before you buy?
Other than that, still love my 03 wagon WRX and can't see me changing it for a long time as there is nothing comparable on the market.
Other than that, still love my 03 wagon WRX and can't see me changing it for a long time as there is nothing comparable on the market.
I think a lot of it is down to price, and road tax. Its really a big thing these days, its that Road Tax price. Youll see customers changing cars to save £70 a year, when its cost £2000 to change etc. Its madness. My thoughts;
High Road Tax
High Fuel Costs
High Service Costs
Not popular as a company car because of all above, and comp car tax!
High Road Tax
High Fuel Costs
High Service Costs
Not popular as a company car because of all above, and comp car tax!
LouD86 said:
I think a lot of it is down to price, and road tax. Its really a big thing these days, its that Road Tax price. Youll see customers changing cars to save £70 a year, when its cost £2000 to change etc. Its madness. My thoughts;
High Road Tax
High Fuel Costs
High Service Costs
Not popular as a company car because of all above, and comp car tax!
Have to agree. People might buy a scoob for a toy or short distance commute but not for any serious mileage as they're just too expensive to run. If I had to do more than 10,000 miles a year in mine I'd have to really sit and think if I'd want to blow all that dosh on running it when I could easily halve my costs by changing to a BMW diesel.High Road Tax
High Fuel Costs
High Service Costs
Not popular as a company car because of all above, and comp car tax!
Question is, would a diesel engined impreza have saved them? Subaru brought out their diesel engine a bit too late imo and in too few a numbers in order to get any kind of grip on the used market, where they'd have been held in high regard I'd have thought. As it is the diesel 4x4's they've got out currently aren't exactly head turners for the right reason.
The problem Subaru had was that the Impreza had sold because it was an awesome performance vehicle for the money, and people were happy to overlook things like a not especially good quality interior and slightly iffy styling because they went so well and made a good noise.
If you are going to sell to a crowd that doesn't want a rally rep, you have to make sure you are giving them what they want. Generally things like a boxer engine and vectored torque control are a long way down the list behind soft touch plastics, a good stereo, and fuel economy.
If you are going to sell to a crowd that doesn't want a rally rep, you have to make sure you are giving them what they want. Generally things like a boxer engine and vectored torque control are a long way down the list behind soft touch plastics, a good stereo, and fuel economy.
micawrx said:
Renault better than Subaru build quality shocker!
There was rumour of an STi diesel... Could have saved them in uk if done correctly..
I don't know which Subaru owners you know, but the ones I know would not want to drive a flattery smoke box, especially one with an STi badge on it.There was rumour of an STi diesel... Could have saved them in uk if done correctly..
We have the other side of the Subaru coin.
While most focus on the chav wagons don't forget for many years subaru sold stuff like the forester which was a no nonsense 4wd estate car which can take huge amounts of abuse.
The current forester looks delicate and it is a SUV that has been rolled in glitter which is sad.
While most focus on the chav wagons don't forget for many years subaru sold stuff like the forester which was a no nonsense 4wd estate car which can take huge amounts of abuse.
The current forester looks delicate and it is a SUV that has been rolled in glitter which is sad.
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