Bored of track days - time to race!
Bored of track days - time to race!
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Cool Hand Luke

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73 posts

181 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Hi Guys,

I've got a R400 K series, which has just come back from the workshop all refreshed for when Spring arrives.

I'm looking ahead and really fancy entering a few races. I've got my MSA "Go Racing" pack and plan to take ny National B test in the next month or so.

I live in Colchester (Essex), and was hoping some of you maybe able to recommend some suitable series? I've come across CSCC, which looks good, but their regs restrict slicks. Ideally I would like to run slicks, as the car is set up for them, and just more fun IMO on them.

So - Dear Santa, I need a local ish series that a R400 K could be competitive and slicks are allowed please

HustleRussell

26,484 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Have you considered buying a cheaper, less pretty, more suitable car? It is going to take a lot of time and money in car and driver development to have any success in a formula which will welcome an R400 on slicks with open arms...

Cool Hand Luke

Original Poster:

73 posts

181 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Being used to racing bikes, and having driven the lower powered Caterham variants I have to say they bore me to tears. The only move I would consider would be up the ladder than than down.

I don't see why a nearly 10 year old K series R400, which has been fully race prepped (suspension, roll cage, fire extinguisher etc etc) is not the ideal car to race? Pretty! I don't think so - a tool for track, nothing to look at or get excited about.




HustleRussell

26,484 posts

189 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Cool Hand Luke said:
Being used to racing bikes, and having driven the lower powered Caterham variants I have to say they bore me to tears. The only move I would consider would be up the ladder than than down.
Perhaps if you'd said that in the original post or put it in your profile you would've got a more helpful contribution. Last time I checked, the majority of people lack psychic powers.
Your title and the fact you've just bought a 'Go Racing' starter pack makes it sound like you have trackday only experience.

Bund

2,624 posts

250 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Luke do you mean you have raced bikes competively or you have ridden fast bikes?

jimmyslr

824 posts

302 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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Cool Hand Luke said:
Hi Guys,

I've got a R400 K series, which has just come back from the workshop all refreshed for when Spring arrives.

I'm looking ahead and really fancy entering a few races. I've got my MSA "Go Racing" pack and plan to take ny National B test in the next month or so.

I live in Colchester (Essex), and was hoping some of you maybe able to recommend some suitable series? I've come across CSCC, which looks good, but their regs restrict slicks. Ideally I would like to run slicks, as the car is set up for them, and just more fun IMO on them.

So - Dear Santa, I need a local ish series that a R400 K could be competitive and slicks are allowed please
Semsec? I haven't checked this years regs but you used to be able to use slicks or road tyres in their class structure. All races in SE at Lydden and Brands


James.S

585 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th December 2012
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If you want to race slicks aren’t a requirement. If you are all in the same machines you have, in essence, the perfect race – be it golf carts or V8 monsters.

If you want to race your R400 then CSCC makes the most sense. Stick on ZZR’s and they will offer plenty of grip, setting the car up to run them is simple. There is a massive difference between a quick track-dayer and a quick racer. From your posts it would seem you have plenty of experience of racing bikes – that isn’t really a help, in fact, possibly a hindrance as you may have pre-conceived ideas.

Best advice would be to grab hold of one of the race mentors, simonmason.com et al, and do a track day with them – this will give you a great base line of where you are and what you need to progress.
Best of luck

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Driving a lower powered Caterham round on a track day could easily bore you to tears but if a race in one does then I fear what you find exciting hehe

James.S

585 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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The Wookie said:
Driving a lower powered Caterham round on a track day could easily bore you to tears but if a race in one does then I fear what you find exciting hehe
How true. RSA still makes me shudder.

HustleRussell

26,484 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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CDP

8,040 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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HustleRussell said:
Of course prior experience is relevant to which series you'd chose to race in- R400 on slicks isn't exactly an entry level and anyone hoping to race one having never raced before is in for a bit of a shock in terms of budget, skill level etc.
An R400 and slicks just means he'll be going faster when (not if) he crashes it.

The difference between racing and trackdays is massive, the way you have to raise your game is eye opening. More than a series with outright pace you want big grids to ensure plenty of battles.

jonnyleroux

1,511 posts

289 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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No brainer surely - the new R600 Championship is exactly what the OP wants.

HustleRussell

26,484 posts

189 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Cool Hand Luke

Original Poster:

73 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th December 2012
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Thanks for all your input. I think CSCC on road tyres is the route for me.

Yes, I do have experience of racing bikes. Agree, it's not the best preparation, and I'm not suggesting for a moment that ill be competitive in a R400 series, but rather the pace and intensity doesn't worry me.

Totally agree with all the comments re the gulf between track days and racing. Chalk and cheese!