Hendon Air Display Programme
Hendon Air Display Programme
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Waynester

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Thursday 20th December 2012
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I recently visited my Gran & while helping to sort some stuff..books, I came across this Hendon air display programme for 1935!
This was purchased by my great uncle who was clearly influenced by what he saw as he became an RAF pilot, 100 squadron during the war. Unfortunately he was killed in his Lancaster flying back from a mission in February 1943.

(Apologies for slightly blurry pics)

Its a fascinating read, & in excellent condition. It reflects a golden era of flight.










Eric Mc

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Thursday 20th December 2012
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Very nice.
Any chance of letting us see the contents?

eccles

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Thursday 20th December 2012
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I've got a bunch of Farnborough programmes from the '50's, they too are a wonderful read and have beautifully designed front covers.

Waynester

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Thursday 20th December 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Very nice.
Any chance of letting us see the contents?
Certainly, I will try & take some non blurry pics of the better pages.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 20th December 2012
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Thanks - that would be interesting.

1935 was an important year for the RAF with the first flight of the Hawker Hurricane and the Vickers Wellesley.

Simpo Two

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Thursday 20th December 2012
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Eric Mc said:
and the Vickers Wellesley.
Which Jeffery Quill managed to flat spin into the countryside IIRC. Or was it Henshaw?

Waynester

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Some pictures.. pictures taken on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, so pictures not the best..










































Eric Mc

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Many thanks. That was fantastic.

I love the painting of the Wildebeets. And the picture of the Comet in military markings.

It was still a display dominated by bi-planes, wasn't it.

Bluebarge

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Many thanks. That was fantastic.

I love the painting of the Wildebeets. And the picture of the Comet in military markings.

It was still a display dominated by bi-planes, wasn't it.
Agreed. Great pics.
IIRC, it was about 1938 before the RAF started receiving monoplanes in any number. 1935 was when the "spitfire" first made its appearance as a seaplane in the Schneider Trophy races.

Ginetta G15 Girl

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Bluebarge said:
1935 was when the "spitfire" first made its appearance as a seaplane in the Schneider Trophy races.
The Spitfire never competed in the Schneider Trophy (a race for Float-planes). The Trophy was won outright in 1931 by the Supermarine S6B.

K5054 (the prototype Spitfire) first flew in March 1936. Operational a/c entered service with 19(F)Sqn from the beginning of August 1938.



OP Thank You for the photo's. Wonderful to see. smile


Simpo Two

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Lovely, classic stuff.

The Westland Pterodactyl has to be a rare one.

Photo at www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmenti... along with bonkers Lysander.


Bluebarge said:
1935 was when the "spitfire" first made its appearance as a seaplane in the Schneider Trophy races.
I'd love to know where you got that jewel of nonsense!

Eric Mc

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Bluebarge said:
Agreed. Great pics.
IIRC, it was about 1938 before the RAF started receiving monoplanes in any number. 1935 was when the "spitfire" first made its appearance as a seaplane in the Schneider Trophy races.
As has been pointed out by others, the various aircraft that Supermarine built for the Schneider trophy seaplane races between 1926 and 1931 had precious little in common with the later Spitfire - except for the fact that they were metal and monoplanes.

The Spitfire first flew in 1936 and entered service in 1938. The Hurricane had flown in 1935 but some months after the Hendon Pageant so did not appear that year.

The 1936 Hendon Display had quite a few of the new monoplanes in the "New Types Park".

Waynester

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Glad you liked the pictures chaps..

The Supermarine type 224 was sometimes referred to as 'Spitfire' but as we all know the design was a failure due to non retractable under carriage & steam/evaporation cooling issues..

Didn't RR & Hives base the Griffon V12 upon the Schneider seaplanes 'R' engine?


If I come across anything else interesting of my uncles i will post up. smile

Waynester

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Bluebarge said:
1935 was when the "spitfire" first made its appearance as a seaplane in the Schneider Trophy races.
The Spitfire never competed in the Schneider Trophy (a race for Float-planes). The Trophy was won outright in 1931 by the Supermarine S6B.

K5054 (the prototype Spitfire) first flew in March 1936. Operational a/c entered service with 19(F)Sqn from the beginning of August 1938.



OP Thank You for the photo's. Wonderful to see. smile
You are quite welcome. smile

Simpo Two

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Friday 21st December 2012
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Waynester said:
Didn't RR & Hives base the Griffon V12 upon the Schneider seaplanes 'R' engine?
The 'R' was a souped-up Buzzard, which was in turn a scaled-up Kestrel. So not related to Griffon or Merlin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_R

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Griffon

Eric Mc

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Saturday 22nd December 2012
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I have also read in numerous books that the Griffon evolved from the R series engines - so there does seem to be some link between that family of engines.

The Merlin (originally called the PV12) was NOT based on the R.

I have also heard that the 224 was referred to as the Spitfire - although it never actually received an official name.



The odd thing is that the eventual Spitfire was originally going to be called the Shrew.

Waynester

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Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Jeffrey Quill certainly linked the R series engines to the development of the Griffon in his book 'Spitfire - A Test Pilots Story'

And of course RJ Mitchell famously said upon hearing his aircraft would be named 'Spitfire' "Just the sort of silly bloody name they would call it"

Simpo Two

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Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Waynester said:
And of course RJ Mitchell famously said upon hearing his aircraft would be named 'Spitfire' "Just the sort of silly bloody name they would call it"
Though it is better than much of the Supermarine nomenclature: Supermarine Donkey, Supermarine Woodlouse, Supermarine Elk and others. We did have some jolly silly names in the interwar period.

Eric Mc

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Sunday 23rd December 2012
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And don't forget the Blackburn Blackburn.

Lack of imagination or what?

Waynester

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Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Eric Mc said:
And don't forget the Blackburn Blackburn.

Lack of imagination or what?
New York, New York.. so good they named it twice..

Agreed, there were certainly some silly names used, but... I think we also set the standard with cool, great sounding names!

Spitfire - it really is a great name! Far preferable to numerate nomenclatures with the German aircraft!
Hurricane
Typhoon
Tempest
Vulcan
Griffon/Merlin