Best 4x4 system?
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I found a video about 4x4 systems on youtube that shows a Scooby can climb a slippery slope even with only one wheel gaining traction. Obviously it's made by fans of the Scoob but that got me thinking. Between the Scoob, the Nissan GTR, the Porsche turbo, the R8/Galliardo, the Audi and the Evo (and any other performance 4x4 I have forgotten) which is truly the best. Not which is the best car mind you, just which is the most universally capable? For example, I imagine the GTR split is still limited so not all drive can go to one wheel.
I'm not sure how to ask this question to each niche without cross posting but I'd be interested in watching informed debate about this.
Anyone ever off-roaded a GTR or an R8? :-)
I'm not sure how to ask this question to each niche without cross posting but I'd be interested in watching informed debate about this.
Anyone ever off-roaded a GTR or an R8? :-)
Depends what you want the system to do. I know the video you are talking about.
The system in a Subaru is just designed to keep you moving whatever the conditions. Subarus are often used in mud, snow etc where you want grip at any cost.
Things like the GTR/ R8 are designed purely for performance. You are never going to want to shift 500bhp to one wheel and the cars are less likely to be used to climb dirt tracks or get the family about in winter.
So 4x4 for off road use then proably the Subaru or a Land Rover product but for chassis optimisation and performance probably something like the GTR or Ferrari FF
The system in a Subaru is just designed to keep you moving whatever the conditions. Subarus are often used in mud, snow etc where you want grip at any cost.
Things like the GTR/ R8 are designed purely for performance. You are never going to want to shift 500bhp to one wheel and the cars are less likely to be used to climb dirt tracks or get the family about in winter.
So 4x4 for off road use then proably the Subaru or a Land Rover product but for chassis optimisation and performance probably something like the GTR or Ferrari FF
Friend lives in Finland. In the winter with several inches of packed snow on his drive home, he took a dealer Legacy home with intention to buy one or a VW Passat 4-motion.
On a deserted straight road, at a set of traffic lights, he boots the Legacy which just pulls away in a straight line.
Next night he has the Passat and repeats the experiment. The Passat changes lanes.
This "symmetry" which Subaru harps on about, and the ability to provide all 4 wheels with enough torque to push the car along really matters in those situations. Couple my 3-litre engine to the wheels through an auto gearbox and you've got the best car to pull out in traffic in any conditions.
Doesn't make for a great trackday car though. I mean, they're great fun, yes, but they eat tyres. My brothers STi murdered tyres and brakes on a track. The Caterham is a better track car but the Subaru is my favourite road car, bar none. I'll be replacing my ageing Legacy with an Outback next (even bigger petrol engine
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On a deserted straight road, at a set of traffic lights, he boots the Legacy which just pulls away in a straight line.
Next night he has the Passat and repeats the experiment. The Passat changes lanes.
This "symmetry" which Subaru harps on about, and the ability to provide all 4 wheels with enough torque to push the car along really matters in those situations. Couple my 3-litre engine to the wheels through an auto gearbox and you've got the best car to pull out in traffic in any conditions.
Doesn't make for a great trackday car though. I mean, they're great fun, yes, but they eat tyres. My brothers STi murdered tyres and brakes on a track. The Caterham is a better track car but the Subaru is my favourite road car, bar none. I'll be replacing my ageing Legacy with an Outback next (even bigger petrol engine
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