Westfield heater
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Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Just after some advice if anyone can help.

below is a picture of my westie and the more egal eyed viewer might notice that there is no heater matrix or blower.


the hole is in the bilkhead as you can see. the ducting is behind the dash and the slits cut under the windscreen. there is also the fan control switch in the dash. all in all it looks like there has been a heater etc... here in the past. the picture below shows the unit I am missing.



if possible could someone aid me in the direction of this unit? there are a few knocking about on the net but all seem to be wrong.

CorseChris

332 posts

255 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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At the risk of sounding facetious (certainly don't intend to be), have you tried Westfield? It looks bespoke to me TBH.



Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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thats a fair point and I haven't. partly because I can't be bothered speaking to them. secondly because like most things they come from another car and the parts are a 1/3rd of westfields prices. not that i'm tight but you get the gist.......

Megaflow

10,897 posts

247 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I really wouldn't bother. The heater will do a good job of roasting your legs (even more so than the engine and gearbox already do so) whilst leaving the rest of you cold.

They also make the cooling system a real bh to bleed and fill because the become the highest point of the system. And then theres the weight.

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I know the water system is a nightmare, since that picture I have altered the system so now the engine gets up to temp properly.

I now have 2 short circuit loops and then a single larger loop around the radiator. works a treat and sustains 80+ degrees even when zero degrees outside.

the bleeding wouldn't be an issue for mine as the header tank is the highest plus I can fit an inline bleed.

I have already done all the work on my dads, and it works a treat, but his has the heater matrix under the dash.

plus if you fit a heater control valve then you can shut it off in the summer.

m444ttb

3,177 posts

251 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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I find mine pretty pointless. When it's properly cold I just can't feel it at all even with the passenger side vent shut! Seems to be sucked straight out.

Any more pics of your cooling system as it is now? That is high up on my jobs list now.

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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i'll go down to the garage and take a few pics.

if you have the standard cooling setup as mine did then the engine simply wouldn't get warm enough to give any hot air. mine previously struggled to get to 60 degrees C. now it sits at 80+ all day, which will produce warm air from the vents.

my dads is re plumbed like mine and his heater works a treat.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

235 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Interested in 'the slots cut under the windscreen', comment. Does this in theory demister the screen? I'd be interested in some pictures of the ducting if so??


Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Only had the car for a few weeks, so been putting my touches to it.

the top hose in the picture has a small piece of pipe on it. in the other end of this pipe is a blank.
the hose that was connected here from the back of the engine now goes in to a new pipe underneath.


new 15mm copper pipe sprayed black.


new pipe at sandwiched in the middle of the other pipes, the rubber hose is to keep from rubbing/rattling.


the pic below shows the new hose changing direction and dropping down to the bottom hose. I simply tig welded a new piece of 15mm pipe to the existing ally bottom hose.


its a really simple mod, but the result is that the engine gets hot before any water travels to the radiator. this is also better for the engine as its designed to run at around 90 degrees and not 50 haha. silly billies at westfield.

p.s. this is a proven mod that works on the track without overheating

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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yes they act as a de-mister for the front window, this in out theory is the main reason for the heater haha.

my dads we made by fibreglass and pipe. i'll take a look at mine now.

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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these are the slots in the bulkhead behind the window.


it might be hard to tell whats happening here but, there is a fibreglass double skin behind the slots in the top of the bulk head. and at each end of the "trough" there is a pipe from the heater.
the pic below is the blower nozzle from the passenger side of the car. the pipe on the right of the two goes up to a fitting in the "trough" there is a similar setup on the other side, only the nozzle is different due to the steering column location.

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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these are the slots in the bulkhead behind the window.



it might be hard to tell whats happening here but, there is a fibreglass double skin behind the slots in the top of the bulk head. and at each end of the "trough" there is a pipe from the heater.
the pic below is the blower nozzle from the passenger side of the car. the pipe on the right of the two goes up to a fitting in the "trough" there is a similar setup on the other side, only the nozzle is different due to the steering column location.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

235 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Do Westfield not have a heated screen as an option?
Also, are these vents permanently open or can you close the screen vents off?

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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never looked in to a heated screen to be honest.

the top vents are permanently open, but i'm sure you could put a valve in there if that bothered you.

Megaflow

10,897 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Westfield do have a heated screen available now, a much better solution for demisting. That or aero screen...

hehe

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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This blower setup works fine on my dads. I just need a blower and heater matrix.

Plus it could be interesting fitting the weather gear to an aero screen.

PeXy

2,169 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Megaflow said:
Westfield do have a heated screen available now, a much better solution for demisting. That or aero screen...

hehe
Aero everytime, helmet keeps me warm and if its really cold I can warm my hands on the silencer smile

Fazt

Original Poster:

179 posts

160 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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its just not practicle for me to have an areo screen.

typical though of a forum, i've asked for help locating a heater matrix, and instead i've been told not to bother, and then to remove the windscreen. then end up giving others advice instead.

what is the point of asking for help, when instead of helping, people just comment back with useless scensoredt? simple if you don't know the answer don't comment!

cerbera1971

28 posts

169 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Dont know if this is of much help, but I have bought a heater from this website in the past and its an excellent piece of kit. Not sure whether it would fit or not where you want it to go but is definitely worth a look.

HTH

http://www.t7design.co.uk/index.php?main_page=inde...

Edited by cerbera1971 on Saturday 29th December 12:12

Megaflow

10,897 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Fazt said:
its just not practicle for me to have an areo screen.

typical though of a forum, i've asked for help locating a heater matrix, and instead i've been told not to bother, and then to remove the windscreen. then end up giving others advice instead.

what is the point of asking for help, when instead of helping, people just comment back with useless scensoredt? simple if you don't know the answer don't comment!
Take a chill pill...

Somebody did suggest where to get a heater in the second post, you don't seem to have posted with why you haven't spoken to them.

Westfield sell the heater, you are only going to get one from them or a second hand one from eBay, anything else and you'll be on your own as to whether it fits.