Drove the new Range Rover 405- a short review.
Drove the new Range Rover 405- a short review.
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busta

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4,504 posts

263 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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I was lucky enough to have a short test drive in the a pre-production Range Rover 405 today. I am led to believe very few people have driven one, so thought I'd write a few words about it. I'm by no means a Range Rover expert, and I just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

All comparisons are with a rather leggy '08 3.6v8 L322

The model I drove was the 3 litre V6 diesel. It went very well, significantly quicker than the 3.6 and very responsive, even when not in sport. The 8 speed auto was very smooth and trumps the 6 speed in every respect, although I don't imagine that's news to many. The stop-start was noticeable but not intrusive. It can be switched off easily.

The handling and composure was superb. Ride is on a par with the L322 but body roll and cornering are leagues ahead. It wanted to be pushed through the corners, and I felt at ease driving it hard (not sure if my passengers did...). It definitely felt lighter and more nimble than the outgoing model, which is already remarkably competent in the corners given it's heft. The demonstrator gentleman said it had the basic suspension, not the active anti-roll system that will be on the higher spec models.

This vehicle was black with black leather and off-white trim bits. It looked striking but wouldn't be my choice. I don't care much for fancy interiors and 'quality plastics' or whatnot but it was very comfortable and had lots of buttons. I didn't have time to familiarise myself with them all but there were enough to cover most things. There is a nice new cubby in the door trim though. It's long and shallow. You could probably conceal a sawn-off or a small sword in there.

The demonstrator was keen to show off the new sound system. I forget the brand- meridian or something? Anyway, it was good but not noticeably better than the superb 'premium' system in my L322. Apparently this was the basic system though, so the premium ones should be a real treat. He said the chassis was a sub woofer or something like that?

On the subject of noise, road noise was quieter overall than the L322 but under acceleration engine note was more pronounced (some 'engineered noise' thing apparently, which I'm not entirely against). The V6 sounded pleasant. I've always been disappointed that V8 isn't more vocal in the L322, so I was pleased this has been addressed.

That's about all I can think of that's worthy of comment. I hope some of that is interesting to one or 2 of you.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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busta said:
I was lucky enough to have a short test drive in the a pre-production Range Rover 405 today.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

busta

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263 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
busta said:
I was lucky enough to have a short test drive in the a pre-production Range Rover 405 today.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
I know it's late. Get some sleep and read it in the morning!

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

187 months

Friday 21st December 2012
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Thanks for the info - I'm very tempted by one of these and with all the weight loss sounds like the 3.0 will be plenty.

scenario8

7,966 posts

209 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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I'm sure it's imperious and it's certainly more interesting to me than its predecessors (although I have issue with the bulk of these machines when following them or trying to peer around them at junctions - but that's another topic, really).

Great British engineering - hopefully the marketing is also up to the task.

Thanks for the write up.


Wigeon Incognito

3,274 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Thank you for that, I for one found it interesting especially ad you were in a position to compare with the L322.

The new chubby sounds very useful too!

stain

1,053 posts

240 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Over 70k for the base model though!

jdwoodbury

1,372 posts

236 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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I must admit I quite like the look of these, I saw one of the M5 and prefer the look over the older model. £70k is a lot of cash but when I went on the build configurator I realised I did not need to specify any extras as so much is included standard.

scarble

5,277 posts

187 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Stop talking about engine note and diesel mad
It's funny, you make out like this is exciting but I've seen loads of 405s about, I was beginning to think it had gone on sale already? Although I live near JLR so.. biggrin
They do look good in the metal, posher than L322, less ASBO.

I think the sound system in the XF is Bower&Wilkins..

Bezza1969

777 posts

178 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Where's the weight loss though? The one autocar tested, came in 300KG heavier than claimed and it wasnt loaded with millions of options. yep, 2625 Kgs, thats half a ton heavier than an X5.

JLR always seem to lie about weight. The XJ and XK were both massively heavier than they said they were gonna be...

Decent economy though, their 35 MPG touring figure was only 1 MPG worst than the 2.2 SD evoque...

busta

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263 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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scarble said:
Stop talking about engine note and diesel mad

I think the sound system in the XF is Bower&Wilkins..
I've always quite liked the sound of a 6+ cylinder diesel under load. Fair enough, they all sound like a cement mixer at idle but you don't hear that bit, especially with stop start.

It wasn't B&W. One of the Landrover guys commented that 'only 4 vehicles in the world use that sound system, 3 of which are landrover. The other is Maclaren'. I though that was a bit of a strange comment, akin to Sainsburys boasting that only they sell taste the difference food. But it sounded good so that's what matters.

busta

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263 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Bezza1969 said:
Decent economy though, their 35 MPG touring figure was only 1 MPG worst than the 2.2 SD evoque...
I didn't look at the economy as I drove although it would have been fairly dire for the 10 minutes I was behind the wheel. The man from Landrover claimed he'd seen 55mpg on the way there, although clearly that was an instantaneous readout or some such.

Although better economy is always welcome, I've not been disappointed with the 26mpg average I get from the L322 to be honest. Plenty of people are getting the same or less in Japanese pickups which are a ton lighter, slower and nowhere near as refined.

slippery

14,093 posts

269 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Thanks for posting the review OP. I enjoyed reading it and would love one. I don't have a spare seventy thousand pounds at the moment, so I guess we'll be keeping our ML for a while yet! smile

Edited by slippery on Saturday 22 December 10:38

busta

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263 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
Tom Ford said on Twitter that his had quality problems. Already.
The first ones always do, whatever the car. That's what you get when you are the first to own one- we all know that the last ones off the line will be the most reliable.

callahan

1,063 posts

236 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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busta said:
scarble said:
Stop talking about engine note and diesel mad

I think the sound system in the XF is Bower&Wilkins..
I've always quite liked the sound of a 6+ cylinder diesel under load. Fair enough, they all sound like a cement mixer at idle but you don't hear that bit, especially with stop start.

It wasn't B&W. One of the Landrover guys commented that 'only 4 vehicles in the world use that sound system, 3 of which are landrover. The other is Maclaren'. I though that was a bit of a strange comment, akin to Sainsburys boasting that only they sell taste the difference food. But it sounded good so that's what matters.
Meridian have taken over from B&W as the premium option for Range Rover and soon Jaguar and Land Rover too, as well as McLaren. There are a few different options for the biggest Rangie including a full DSP surround sound option which should be rather good. I had a smaller version in a loan Evoque I had last year and it was probably the best system I have heard in a car. I remember one evening driving home with Faith No More at frankly ridiculous levels and it was magnificent.

I'll admit I used to work for Meridian and they are another British company we should be proud of, as are JLR and B&W too.

David87

7,031 posts

242 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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Yep, the Meridian system in the Evoque is staggeringly good - the top spec one in the L405 must be amazing! I need to get myself a go in one of those cars!

Coolbanana

4,419 posts

230 months

Saturday 22nd December 2012
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I had the Meridian Premium 825W system in my Evoque and it was really excellent for a factory hi-fi. I usually spend £££'s on an aftermarket JL Audio/ DLS system for my cars but didn't in the Ewok since it was so good.

I have the Harmon Kardon Premium 825W Logic 7 hi-fi in the RRS and it is not as accurate - the Meridian is a definite improvement.

The L405 does look the part and is an obvious improvement to me over the L322. That said, the FFRR is not a car I aspire to owning but the next gen RRS looks very tempting.

A new F-Type and RRS within the next 12-18mths will suit me nicely; business Gods willing, of course.