Locomotives in the snow
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SlipStream77

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2,153 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6acPX_00M9Q

About a minute in it's quite impressive.

And to think that in this country, we stop because of wet leaves..

BMW3s6

2,877 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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snow does not effect trains much, the reason why certain leafs cause so many problems is the wheel crushes the leaf it releases an oily like substance which gives the effect of driving on black ice.

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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But snow of the wrong flake size clogs air inlets I hear.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Leaves on the line cause black ice like conditions as mentioned, they also prevent train detection equipment seeing the train so the safety of the signalling system is seriously compromised.

andym1603

1,885 posts

201 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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Yet another country showing us up.

iPlod999

368 posts

173 months

Sunday 23rd December 2012
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How about high speed ploughing?

http://youtu.be/KJlTrLllWN4

The Boy Lard

470 posts

252 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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Does the gauge make any difference on ease to clear?

matchmaker

9,033 posts

229 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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We have some fairly heavy duty snow ploughs in the UK. Here's one, although not in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EAl9pGcv2U

How do think that we keep the railways in the Highlands, Pennines, etc, open in the winter?

MitchT

17,114 posts

238 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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andym1603 said:
Yet another country showing us up.
^this^

I've head the leaf explanation before. Leaves aren't a new invention. They've been around longer than trains. Drop the "can't do" attitude and sort it the fk out.

Rick101

7,186 posts

179 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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SlipStream77 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6acPX_00M9Q

About a minute in it's quite impressive.

And to think that in this country, we stop because of wet leaves..
The problem is, not stopping.

Rick101

7,186 posts

179 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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MitchT said:
^this^

I've head the leaf explanation before. Leaves aren't a new invention. They've been around longer than trains. Drop the "can't do" attitude and sort it the fk out.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18605926

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCTU-hb2Zbo&fe...
^this^

I nearly had a half million pound job cancelled cos of a fking birds nest and the time it took to get permission to move it.

Want to stop leaves on the line, easy, chop the bloody lot down

BMW3s6

2,877 posts

227 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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The fact is leafs do cause problems, however tree hugger groups oppose to network rail cuting down trees on the lineside which makes it worse.


anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 24th December 2012
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And in English?!

BMW3s6

2,877 posts

227 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Using my iPhone causes to post on forums often leads to a type here and there! Sorry smile

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-117903...

Leaves don't cause problems you know!

W124Bob

1,863 posts

204 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Union Pacific's Donner pass(California) Feb2010 typical winter scene.

courageous

134 posts

193 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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Rick101 said:
Want to stop leaves on the line, easy, chop the bloody lot down
Apologies for the mini-bump, but thought I should mention we tried that down in Kent/Sussex about a decade ago...

To this day, we are suffering landslides where we never had them before because the trees were holding everything in place

GrahamG

1,091 posts

296 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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MitchT said:
^this^

I've head the leaf explanation before. Leaves aren't a new invention. They've been around longer than trains. Drop the "can't do" attitude and sort it the fk out.
Substitute the phrase 'Black Ice' for the word 'leaf' and then substitute the word 'car' for the word 'train' - Same basic issue and just as tough to solve. There is a LOT of attention paid to leaf fall, and it isn't nearly as simple as the likes of the daily mail would have you believe.

Rick101

7,186 posts

179 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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courageous said:
Rick101 said:
Want to stop leaves on the line, easy, chop the bloody lot down
Apologies for the mini-bump, but thought I should mention we tried that down in Kent/Sussex about a decade ago...

To this day, we are suffering landslides where we never had them before because the trees were holding everything in place
It's easy for folk to complain but it's not an easy fix.

Railways are extraordinarily complex and this semi privatised system doesn't help things. The average Joe has no idea how much work goes ino thier train arriving on time.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

196 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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I saw them doing this when I lived there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QenN5DVuLtw one of the people on the two way sounds familiar.