New car - Running In?
Discussion
Well . . . it will be my first ever new car & I will be hopefully picking up the M-Lite later on today, and I'd like to treat her right from the off. There are obviously plenty of schools of thought as to how to bed-in a new engine including the 'thrash it from day one' crowd, of which I am not a fan. I am fairly certain the dealer's advice will be to keep it under 3'500rpm for the first 1'500 miles. I live in London so it will be getting plenty of mixed driving including some longer runs down the A40, so hopefully that will be ideal.
On an purely inquisitive note what engine running procedures do the manufacturers use on their cars as they run off the production line or do they leave it to the whim of the first owner?!
On an purely inquisitive note what engine running procedures do the manufacturers use on their cars as they run off the production line or do they leave it to the whim of the first owner?!
This will cause some response but when my bike was rebuilt i followed this ....
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
And watching cars being moved around by dealers and factory staff there is no care how cars are treated, the most important time for a new engine is from first start to bed everything in, by the time a customer receives the keys to his or her new toy, the window to actually make a difference has long gone ...... just drive it.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
And watching cars being moved around by dealers and factory staff there is no care how cars are treated, the most important time for a new engine is from first start to bed everything in, by the time a customer receives the keys to his or her new toy, the window to actually make a difference has long gone ...... just drive it.
f*ckheads).rigga said:
Digger said:
See - that is what got me wondering. Apparently it is the first 20-30 miles that are the most critical - allegedly, in order to bed the rings in most efficiently.
Spot on, once that period has passed it won't matter how the engine is used/abused.Well it's likely that 20 miles will have already been driven in it before you even collect it.
What car is it BTW?
Drive the first 1000 miles like Miss Daisy although varying the revs up to about 3000 is good practice. Sitting on a motorway for hour after hour at 2500 rpm is not good.
Change the oil and filter and progressively use the car more like normal till the next service circa 10k.
Then drive it reasonably most of the time and like you stole it every now and again.
This should see you right.
Change the oil and filter and progressively use the car more like normal till the next service circa 10k.
Then drive it reasonably most of the time and like you stole it every now and again.
This should see you right.
I remember asking this to a mate's dad who works at Vauxhall.
He said that every car has UV dye (or similar) added to the oil and coolant. I can't remember the rpm but the engine is then started and held a predesignated rpm for about 20 minutes (its a fairly high rpm).
A UV lamp is then used to check for leaks before carrying out the same test again, only this time with a load on the engine and the rpm increased. It is a massive amount of strain on the engine and will exceed probably anything it would be exposed to thereafter.
Its then inspected and released for sale.
So it's ready to roll straight from the factory and any running in is pointless... That said I can't imagine Ferrari carrying out the same test.
He said that every car has UV dye (or similar) added to the oil and coolant. I can't remember the rpm but the engine is then started and held a predesignated rpm for about 20 minutes (its a fairly high rpm).
A UV lamp is then used to check for leaks before carrying out the same test again, only this time with a load on the engine and the rpm increased. It is a massive amount of strain on the engine and will exceed probably anything it would be exposed to thereafter.
Its then inspected and released for sale.
So it's ready to roll straight from the factory and any running in is pointless... That said I can't imagine Ferrari carrying out the same test.
Prof Prolapse said:
I remember asking this to a mate's dad who works at Vauxhall.
He said that every car has UV dye (or similar) added to the oil and coolant. I can't remember the rpm but the engine is then started and held a predesignated rpm for about 20 minutes (its a fairly high rpm).
A UV lamp is then used to check for leaks before carrying out the same test again, only this time with a load on the engine and the rpm increased. It is a massive amount of strain on the engine and will exceed probably anything it would be exposed to thereafter.
Its then inspected and released for sale.
So it's ready to roll straight from the factory and any running in is pointless... That said I can't imagine Ferrari carrying out the same test.
It seems more likely that Ferrari would do that than Vauxhall, they've got far fewer engines to test.He said that every car has UV dye (or similar) added to the oil and coolant. I can't remember the rpm but the engine is then started and held a predesignated rpm for about 20 minutes (its a fairly high rpm).
A UV lamp is then used to check for leaks before carrying out the same test again, only this time with a load on the engine and the rpm increased. It is a massive amount of strain on the engine and will exceed probably anything it would be exposed to thereafter.
Its then inspected and released for sale.
So it's ready to roll straight from the factory and any running in is pointless... That said I can't imagine Ferrari carrying out the same test.
inman999 said:
Hopefully the dock workers have given it a good thrashing for you in order to set the rings.
BMW set the ECU to a very restrictive map until the dealer removes it. Although working at Immingham dock were they were delivered and stored (unsure if they still do it there) they still get a good thrash 
Prof Prolapse said:
I remember asking this to a mate's dad who works at Vauxhall.
He said that every car has UV dye (or similar) added to the oil and coolant. I can't remember the rpm but the engine is then started and held a predesignated rpm for about 20 minutes (its a fairly high rpm).
A UV lamp is then used to check for leaks before carrying out the same test again, only this time with a load on the engine and the rpm increased. It is a massive amount of strain on the engine and will exceed probably anything it would be exposed to thereafter.
Its then inspected and released for sale.
So it's ready to roll straight from the factory and any running in is pointless... That said I can't imagine Ferrari carrying out the same test.
That sounds like hot test to me, only a small percentage of engines normally go through that. Low volume stuff might be 100% hot tested though, all Veyron engines are ircc, for example.He said that every car has UV dye (or similar) added to the oil and coolant. I can't remember the rpm but the engine is then started and held a predesignated rpm for about 20 minutes (its a fairly high rpm).
A UV lamp is then used to check for leaks before carrying out the same test again, only this time with a load on the engine and the rpm increased. It is a massive amount of strain on the engine and will exceed probably anything it would be exposed to thereafter.
Its then inspected and released for sale.
So it's ready to roll straight from the factory and any running in is pointless... That said I can't imagine Ferrari carrying out the same test.
Most if not all engines are cold tested which (I think) is when the engine is turned over without fuel to check nothing major is wrong.
rigga said:
Its unlikely every engine that vaux produce is run on a test bed before release, and from experience when fitting a replacement engine to a astra many moons ago to find the big ends already knackered and scored I'd deffinatly think it wasn't the case .
It was a long time ago but I think he implied every engine because I specifically asked about running in. Hence me bringing it up.Anywho, I don't know, that's just what I was told he's senior at the plant. If I bump into him next weekend I'll ask again.
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