Now got my 996 Turbo from RSJ!
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Hi all,
Very sorry for the delayed update but as the title says, I've got it!!! I picked the car up (along with my father) about 10 days ago now from RSJ, I haven't stopped smiling since! The job Joel and the guys had done preparing the car had to be seen to be believed. Quite simply, the car looked like new. We were gobsmacked! I saw the car before prep and thought it was good; after prep, it was stunning both the coachwork and mechanically. So many new parts had been fitted as part of the process, they didn't skimp on anything. It turns out that this is a car I had previously looked at with a view to buying. Having been given a copy of the internal invoice for mechanical works carried out, I'm so glad I didn't get it from the original vendor, it would have cost me more in the long run. I now have peace of mind too....
So, what's it like? Fantastic! So sure footed. I drove it yesterday on very familiar roads and found the car very inspiring, bearing in mind I have come from a rapid front wheel drive Mini (Issigonis type!), I honestly could not tell it was rear engined! Hats off to Porsche, what a car. I have had front wheel drive cars nearly all my life, so I was expecting this to feel really heavy on the back end. Nope! It feels so planted, even when given a flick or two to try to provoke it. Impressive indeed. Is it quick? Yes, of course but not scary at all (yet). The tyres are Bridgestone SO2 A N3's, which a lot of people seem to dislike, to me they felt just fine but I have no other references regarding Porsches. RSJ had just fitted two brand new fronts, so I guess I will stick with them for the time being.
Complaints? The brakes are a bit so-so. Again, they had just fitted brand new rear discs and pads which may have had a bearing on this. They do work once hot but unless you are driving at silly speeds, it seems tricky to keep them hot enough. As they are very fresh brakes, I will give them 500 miles or so to bed in properly. At this moment in time, the Mini would out brake the Porsche hands down, with it's Carbon Metallic 83's and KAD callipers.
All in all, one very happy owner.
Merry Christmas all.
Mike.
Very sorry for the delayed update but as the title says, I've got it!!! I picked the car up (along with my father) about 10 days ago now from RSJ, I haven't stopped smiling since! The job Joel and the guys had done preparing the car had to be seen to be believed. Quite simply, the car looked like new. We were gobsmacked! I saw the car before prep and thought it was good; after prep, it was stunning both the coachwork and mechanically. So many new parts had been fitted as part of the process, they didn't skimp on anything. It turns out that this is a car I had previously looked at with a view to buying. Having been given a copy of the internal invoice for mechanical works carried out, I'm so glad I didn't get it from the original vendor, it would have cost me more in the long run. I now have peace of mind too....
So, what's it like? Fantastic! So sure footed. I drove it yesterday on very familiar roads and found the car very inspiring, bearing in mind I have come from a rapid front wheel drive Mini (Issigonis type!), I honestly could not tell it was rear engined! Hats off to Porsche, what a car. I have had front wheel drive cars nearly all my life, so I was expecting this to feel really heavy on the back end. Nope! It feels so planted, even when given a flick or two to try to provoke it. Impressive indeed. Is it quick? Yes, of course but not scary at all (yet). The tyres are Bridgestone SO2 A N3's, which a lot of people seem to dislike, to me they felt just fine but I have no other references regarding Porsches. RSJ had just fitted two brand new fronts, so I guess I will stick with them for the time being.
Complaints? The brakes are a bit so-so. Again, they had just fitted brand new rear discs and pads which may have had a bearing on this. They do work once hot but unless you are driving at silly speeds, it seems tricky to keep them hot enough. As they are very fresh brakes, I will give them 500 miles or so to bed in properly. At this moment in time, the Mini would out brake the Porsche hands down, with it's Carbon Metallic 83's and KAD callipers.
All in all, one very happy owner.
Merry Christmas all.
Mike.
)Mike
One important point regarding Porsche brakes is that they are not overservoed like other cars so they need a bit of extra shove but are therefore much easier to modulate once you get used to them. I remember going from my old GT3 into my BMW and almost smashing my face on the windscreen because most other manfacturers use too much servo assistance. Just something to remember
Enjoy!
One important point regarding Porsche brakes is that they are not overservoed like other cars so they need a bit of extra shove but are therefore much easier to modulate once you get used to them. I remember going from my old GT3 into my BMW and almost smashing my face on the windscreen because most other manfacturers use too much servo assistance. Just something to remember
Enjoy!
christer said:
Mike
One important point regarding Porsche brakes is that they are not overservoed like other cars so they need a bit of extra shove but are therefore much easier to modulate once you get used to them. I remember going from my old GT3 into my BMW and almost smashing my face on the windscreen because most other manfacturers use too much servo assistance. Just something to remember
Enjoy!
Don't want to sound like a broken record but they are under servoed, if they were perfectly servoed rather than over servoed ( which is just as bad as under servoed), then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Nice car by the way. One important point regarding Porsche brakes is that they are not overservoed like other cars so they need a bit of extra shove but are therefore much easier to modulate once you get used to them. I remember going from my old GT3 into my BMW and almost smashing my face on the windscreen because most other manfacturers use too much servo assistance. Just something to remember
Enjoy!
merry xmas mate, santa delivered mine a couple weeks early beautiful cars and previously i hadnt even considered a 996 turbo, now im not sure what else id consider for my needs at this money. daily driver and no garage. spirited progress on wet and windy roads standing water etc this car rocks!
reminds me of the old scooby days in my yoof, enjoy. looks lovely in silver,
dodge pics at the works car valet man
reminds me of the old scooby days in my yoof, enjoy. looks lovely in silver,
dodge pics at the works car valet man
Edited by metsta on Tuesday 25th December 00:24
Callughan said:
Congrats.
Brakes and suspension really struggled on my old C4S when pushing it let alone on a turbo, hence why you see many owners mod there cars depends on how you are going to use car.
Suspension refresh at CG pretty much sorts that issue. Brakes and suspension really struggled on my old C4S when pushing it let alone on a turbo, hence why you see many owners mod there cars depends on how you are going to use car.
Edited by Callughan on Tuesday 25th December 11:10
Regarding brakes, as others have said, when you get used to them they do inspire confidence - well just about!
Porkupine said:
Callughan said:
Congrats.
Brakes and suspension really struggled on my old C4S when pushing it let alone on a turbo, hence why you see many owners mod there cars depends on how you are going to use car.
Suspension refresh at CG pretty much sorts that issue. Brakes and suspension really struggled on my old C4S when pushing it let alone on a turbo, hence why you see many owners mod there cars depends on how you are going to use car.
Edited by Callughan on Tuesday 25th December 11:10
Regarding brakes, as others have said, when you get used to them they do inspire confidence - well just about!
Edited by Callughan on Tuesday 25th December 11:42
Congrats OP and Merry Christmas! You must have picked yours up the weekend I got mine. Agree about the brake feel, but they do work well really, just takes getting used to. Mine had just had new Brickstones as well, my least favourite premium brand, seems to want to follow all the cambers in the road! The acceleration is epic, great cars.
I've just started getting a creak from the rear of the car, so I'm resisting driving mine til I can get the garage to have a look, not easy to not drive it!
I've just started getting a creak from the rear of the car, so I'm resisting driving mine til I can get the garage to have a look, not easy to not drive it!
I agree that the brakes take getting used to. My C4S, with the Turbo brakes didnt seem that good compared to the setup on my old A3 3.2. The discs on them for instance were 345mm which are not far off the C4S's but they seemed sharper but as someone said, i think there was more servo assistance in the Audi than the Porsche.
But now getting used to them, they do pull up in a good distance.
But now getting used to them, they do pull up in a good distance.
christer said:
Mike
One important point regarding Porsche brakes is that they are not overservoed like other cars so they need a bit of extra shove but are therefore much easier to modulate once you get used to them. I remember going from my old GT3 into my BMW and almost smashing my face on the windscreen because most other manfacturers use too much servo assistance. Just something to remember
Enjoy!
Agreed re modern over-servo'd brakes, I hate them too!! But, a big one too, I'm driving this on hand controls, as I'm in a wheelchair. That usually makes no difference at all, for example my little track day crotch rocket had no servo, Carbon MetallicOne important point regarding Porsche brakes is that they are not overservoed like other cars so they need a bit of extra shove but are therefore much easier to modulate once you get used to them. I remember going from my old GT3 into my BMW and almost smashing my face on the windscreen because most other manfacturers use too much servo assistance. Just something to remember
Enjoy!
'83's, which had sublime brake modulation and stopping properties. The Turbo does have brakes but only when I can get them hot enough. There is also one hell of a lot of brake dust being generated for so little retardation!
It does feel as though it could do with a slightly greater servo assistance, but I do think this could be due to me braking with my arm/hand.
Thanks for all the positive responses and the other Turbos look fabulous too! I picked mine up on a Thursday to miss the Saturday mad-house. It sure does motor above three figure speeds ( that's 59.9mph Officer). Impressive cars for sure.
mikep240 said:
Agreed re modern over-servo'd brakes, I hate them too!! But, a big one too, I'm driving this on hand controls, as I'm in a wheelchair. That usually makes no difference at all, for example my little track day crotch rocket had no servo, Carbon Metallic
'83's, which had sublime brake modulation and stopping properties. The Turbo does have brakes but only when I can get them hot enough. There is also one hell of a lot of brake dust being generated for so little retardation!
It does feel as though it could do with a slightly greater servo assistance, but I do think this could be due to me braking with my arm/hand.
Thanks for all the positive responses and the other Turbos look fabulous too! I picked mine up on a Thursday to miss the Saturday mad-house. It sure does motor above three figure speeds ( that's 59.9mph Officer). Impressive cars for sure.
Cracking looking car Mike. '83's, which had sublime brake modulation and stopping properties. The Turbo does have brakes but only when I can get them hot enough. There is also one hell of a lot of brake dust being generated for so little retardation!
It does feel as though it could do with a slightly greater servo assistance, but I do think this could be due to me braking with my arm/hand.
Thanks for all the positive responses and the other Turbos look fabulous too! I picked mine up on a Thursday to miss the Saturday mad-house. It sure does motor above three figure speeds ( that's 59.9mph Officer). Impressive cars for sure.
The standard brakes aren't up to much, certainly not up to slowing a car such as a Turbo consistently from big speeds when used in anger (even a standard one)
They may improve if you overhaul them, but the only surefire way to improve them is to fit the six pot calipers from the Mk 2 996 GT3/GT2 & Turbo S and matching 350mm discs (or any of the well known aftermarket upgraded discs from Brembo, Alcon etc) with either oe pads or RS29s.
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