When to Let a New Cat Outside?
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Negative Creep

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25,817 posts

250 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Last week I got my first cat from a rescue home, a 13 year old neutered male who I've been told used to go outside. The plan was to keep him in my room initially with his food and litter tray, but basically it's proved physically impossible as I have to keep going out to the kitchen, work etc so he's got out and explored the house. Now he's got a taste for it he keeps mewling and scratching the door wanting to leave my room. Normally it wouldn't bother me at all letting him around the house, but the problem is it's a shared one and he could get out the door when someone else comes in. I've told everyone not to let him out but the only realistic way of stopping it would be me constantly supervising him, which obviously can't happen.

A big part of me doesn't want to let him out at all, but for the above reasons I may not have much of a choice. He does seem to be getting frustrated at being cooped up, but other than that is doing well and took a shine to me very quickly. We live in a quiet area with a private road, but is 10 or so days simply too soon to allow him more freedom?

bexVN

14,690 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Very dependant on the individual cat. General guide is 2-3 weeks but there are cats that'll be ok after a week.

Few things you can do to reduce chances of wandering off:

Let him out a.m. and hungry. Ie no breakfast, ensure he knows the sound of a bag of food being shaken etc.
Carry him out first time to sniff around.
Put some of his used litter in the garden so his scent is already in the garden.
Make sure he can get back in the house as soon as he wants to.

Finally ensure he is micochipped and initially consider a snap release collar with your address on.

Lovely to read that an older cat has been given a home

Xtriple129

1,173 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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I kept a prized and much loved pure white moggy in for a week or so. Thought it would be safe so let him out. Never saw him again frown

I'd leave it a couple of weeks at least.

Simpo Two

91,385 posts

288 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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I'd accompany him outide; follow a little way behind with a box of cat biscuits to rattle if you need to lure him back. He may be new but he knows you and your house better than the big outdoors so *should* come back after he's gone a little way and had a few sniffs. At least that's the way my rescue cats worked - just 20 yards out and back gets it out of their system.

The older the cat the less it will adapt so it's trying to do its old regime - ie go out and come back.

Jasandjules

72,004 posts

252 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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We've always done two weeks. AND don't feed the cat in the morning and let it out in the afternoon - you go out with it with some food.

TwigtheWonderkid

47,968 posts

173 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Whenever I've let a new cat out for the first time I've always put butter on its paws. Not sure if it works or just some old wives tale but never lost a cat yet.

Mobile Chicane

21,821 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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bexVN said:
Very dependant on the individual cat. General guide is 2-3 weeks but there are cats that'll be ok after a week.

Few things you can do to reduce chances of wandering off:

Let him out a.m. and hungry. Ie no breakfast, ensure he knows the sound of a bag of food being shaken etc.
Carry him out first time to sniff around.
Put some of his used litter in the garden so his scent is already in the garden.
Make sure he can get back in the house as soon as he wants to.

Finally ensure he is micochipped and initially consider a snap release collar with your address on.

Lovely to read that an older cat has been given a home
This ^^^

Exactly what I was advised to do by Cats Protection when I adopted Bob.

At first he was happy enough to sniff around and come back in almost immediately, so there was a bit of the 'anxious new parent' when he first disappeared off on his own.

However I needn't have worried. After an absence of what seemed like hours, Bob casually sauntered in and presented me with my first gift - a half-dead shrew.

It was squeaking pathetically, and Bob was teasing it rather than finishing the deed, so I boffed it on the head with an empty tequila bottle.

Moral of the story being, let them out, but be sure to have plenty of clubbing implements for what they might bring back.



Negative Creep

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25,817 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Thanks for the replies. I do feel mean for keeping him confined in one room, but unless I sat by the front door all day there's no way of stopping him from getting out if he really wanted to. He hasn't made any attempt to escape outside; even though I put mesh over my windows (2nd floor) it's been completely unnecessary. So he may not even want to go outside, and to be honest I'd rather he didn't but I won't stop him if he wants to. As I don't really know the other people in the house I can't expect them to be chasing him down if he ran out, especially as I'm at work 5 days a week.

On the plus side, he's definitely taken a shine to me and follows me around everywhere always wanting affection. He's slept on my bed every night since he arrives and has always been straight over the moment I wake up to start nuzzling. Only just got in from work and he's fast asleep on my leg as we speak, and I have been trying to spend every possible moment in the room with him. So since he appears to be quite clingy I'm hoping that means he'll want to come back,with little inclination to remain outside for long periods. We did just go for an explore of the house and he didn't stray too far from me, following by my side like a dog when I walked back upstairs. I've been ensuring that he gets some treats each time he comes back into my room, and I always shake the bag calling his name. He is microchipped and has a collar with my mobile number (possibly risky in itself but I figure people may ring rather than try and take him to a vet)

Mobile Chicane

21,821 posts

235 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Thanks for the replies. I do feel mean for keeping him confined in one room, but unless I sat by the front door all day there's no way of stopping him from getting out if he really wanted to. He hasn't made any attempt to escape outside; even though I put mesh over my windows (2nd floor) it's been completely unnecessary. So he may not even want to go outside, and to be honest I'd rather he didn't but I won't stop him if he wants to. As I don't really know the other people in the house I can't expect them to be chasing him down if he ran out, especially as I'm at work 5 days a week.

On the plus side, he's definitely taken a shine to me and follows me around everywhere always wanting affection. He's slept on my bed every night since he arrives and has always been straight over the moment I wake up to start nuzzling. Only just got in from work and he's fast asleep on my leg as we speak, and I have been trying to spend every possible moment in the room with him. So since he appears to be quite clingy I'm hoping that means he'll want to come back,with little inclination to remain outside for long periods. We did just go for an explore of the house and he didn't stray too far from me, following by my side like a dog when I walked back upstairs. I've been ensuring that he gets some treats each time he comes back into my room, and I always shake the bag calling his name. He is microchipped and has a collar with my mobile number (possibly risky in itself but I figure people may ring rather than try and take him to a vet)
If he's confined to one room while you're out, give him lots of cat toys - a paper carrier bag works wonders - and grow some 'cat grass'. Wheat, seeded in compost, grows very quickly and will help with coughing up furballs, etc.

whoami

13,180 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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bexVN said:
Lovely to read that an older cat has been given a home
yes

Well done OP.

Negative Creep

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25,817 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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whoami said:
bexVN said:
Lovely to read that an older cat has been given a home
yes

Well done OP.
Thanks. Since he'd be on his own a lot I didn't think it would be fair to buy a younger cat, plus my theory was he'd want to spend his time lazing around instead of climbing on and destroying things. Thus far, I've been proven correct. He's likely only got a few years of retirement left, but that's good insofar as it's not such a commitment long term

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Wednesday 26th December 2012
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For me, I have never kept them in for more than 5 days. YMMV.

Jasandjules

72,004 posts

252 months

Thursday 27th December 2012
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Older cats are(IME) less inclined to stay out as well. Save for very warm summer days when they need to recharge.

Negative Creep

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25,817 posts

250 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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Just to update and say he's visited the great outdoors 4 times now. The first time I had a genuine knot in my stomach when he jumped over the wall and out of site, but turned up about 20 minutes later to an extra special helping of treats. Other than that it's been less than 5 minutes before he wants to come back in. There are 3 other cats that come into the garden so I'm hoping that will limit how far he roams. In other news he's settling in well, although will still follow me all around the house. He's also developed a habit of batting my face at about 4am to try and get me to give him some attention. I try and ignore him, but then he'll bite my ear or nose for a response. The best solution I've found so far is to hide under the covers, like a 4 year old whose just watched a scary film, until he gives up

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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Sounds superb. As annoying as having a cat trying to beat you up in the morning, (mine does the same, almost exactly the same as Simon's cat does), it is incredibly cute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ffwDYo00Q

jagracer

8,248 posts

259 months

Saturday 5th January 2013
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Negative Creep said:
He's also developed a habit of batting my face at about 4am to try and get me to give him some attention. I try and ignore him, but then he'll bite my ear or nose for a response. The best solution I've found so far is to hide under the covers, like a 4 year old whose just watched a scary film, until he gives up
You've obviously never owned a cat before? They always want food at 4am or at least 3 hours before you want to get up if that's earlier. Try watching Garfield the film or Simon's cat on Youtube and you'll get the idea.
Edited, heretic beat me to it.

Edited by jagracer on Saturday 5th January 23:53

Known Gambler

97 posts

160 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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For the life of me, I don't know why anyone would let their loving pet outside? How many cats have to be killed by cars, predators, and just mean people poisoning them? I do cat rescue, and I can't tell you how many we've saved that were mutilated in one way or the other, shot, one eye, no ears, burned, and tails cut off. ALL of these rescues are now strictly house cats, and after a short period of time take to it like a duck takes to water. Besides, the neighbors don't complain about poop in their garden, dead birds and mice left as presents, and the ever increasing propagation of the species by owners that aren't responsible enough to make sure their cat doesn't start a harem, or brings home 4 more little ones like herself!....OK, rant off.

Cyder

7,182 posts

243 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Known Gambler said:
For the life of me, I don't know why anyone would let their loving pet outside? How many cats have to be killed by cars, predators, and just mean people poisoning them? I do cat rescue, and I can't tell you how many we've saved that were mutilated in one way or the other, shot, one eye, no ears, burned, and tails cut off. ALL of these rescues are now strictly house cats, and after a short period of time take to it like a duck takes to water. Besides, the neighbors don't complain about poop in their garden, dead birds and mice left as presents, and the ever increasing propagation of the species by owners that aren't responsible enough to make sure their cat doesn't start a harem, or brings home 4 more little ones like herself!....OK, rant off.
You're trolling but I'll bite anyway...
For the life of me I can't see how anyone can be so cruel as to keep their loving pets trapped inside when their instincts lay outside hunting and exploring.

My parents picked up a rescue cat a few years ago and barricaded the car flap, within 24 hrs she'd barged her way past it and got out, she came back when she was hungry and now spends pretty much all day outside ad comes back in to curl up and sleep on someone's lap in front of the fire in the evening.

How cruel.


TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Because I live in a rural area, miles from anywhere that is built up, surrounded by fields, and hills, thankyou very much.

Known Gambler

97 posts

160 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Cyder said:
You're trolling but I'll bite anyway...
For the life of me I can't see how anyone can be so cruel as to keep their loving pets trapped inside when their instincts lay outside hunting and exploring.

My parents picked up a rescue cat a few years ago and barricaded the car flap, within 24 hrs she'd barged her way past it and got out, she came back when she was hungry and now spends pretty much all day outside ad comes back in to curl up and sleep on someone's lap in front of the fire in the evening.

How cruel.
Wonder how they'll feel when the cat doesn't come back, or perhaps they find it run over in the front of the house!..... Nice try though!