Two men in a pub discussiong SafetyCameraPartshps
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Have a look at the link below....read the text then click each man..
It's a true conversation, I tell you. It's true.
www.slowitdown.co.uk/faq.asp
Street
It's a true conversation, I tell you. It's true.
www.slowitdown.co.uk/faq.asp
Street
What a bunch of lying scheming gits!!! and I'm being polite here!
Old lies repeated often enough become "truth" for some inane non-questioning lowbrows.....
Since when did the scamera partnerships NOT receive the money. They were EXPRESSLY set up to use the money made from speeding fines!!!!!!
LIES MORE LIES AND DAMNED BENT STATISTICS
Old lies repeated often enough become "truth" for some inane non-questioning lowbrows.....
Since when did the scamera partnerships NOT receive the money. They were EXPRESSLY set up to use the money made from speeding fines!!!!!!
LIES MORE LIES AND DAMNED BENT STATISTICS
and a visit to safespeed. 
Huge amounts of the NHS resources are used to care and treat people involved in road traffic collisions. For the cost of looking after one person with serious injuries resulting from a road traffic collision, the NHS could perform 5 heart transplants.
I love this above quote from their speed information section.
Where do they think the healthy hearts for those transplants come from?
I love this above quote from their speed information section.
Where do they think the healthy hearts for those transplants come from?
Pretty misleading I'd say. The third answer about "a money making scheme". I quote:
"None of the organisations involved in the operation of safety cameras receives any of money from speeding or red light fines. It's all reinvested into road safety at a local level, so we all benefit."
Then on the "full FAQ" page it says:
"The initiative allows local safety camera partnerships to claim back their administrative and operating costs from local safety camera fines..."
I guess when they say "any of the money" then just mean what's left over after nearly all the money has been reclaimed after admin.....
When they say "local level" they mean local as in Debyshire Police, Derbyshire CC, Derbyshire CPS... all road safety people you know...
Gareth
>> Edited by g_attrill on Thursday 9th September 12:51
"None of the organisations involved in the operation of safety cameras receives any of money from speeding or red light fines. It's all reinvested into road safety at a local level, so we all benefit."
Then on the "full FAQ" page it says:
"The initiative allows local safety camera partnerships to claim back their administrative and operating costs from local safety camera fines..."
I guess when they say "any of the money" then just mean what's left over after nearly all the money has been reclaimed after admin.....
When they say "local level" they mean local as in Debyshire Police, Derbyshire CC, Derbyshire CPS... all road safety people you know...
Gareth
>> Edited by g_attrill on Thursday 9th September 12:51
I noticed that the arsehole talking bo77ocks... was the one with the pint in his hand.
"It must be true, a pissed bloke down the pub told me"
It's nearly as bad as the adverts appearing on the rear of local buses:
"we don't want your money, we don't want your licence, we just want you to slow down"
B0ll0cks!
>> Edited by blueyes on Thursday 9th September 12:57
"It must be true, a pissed bloke down the pub told me"
It's nearly as bad as the adverts appearing on the rear of local buses:
"we don't want your money, we don't want your licence, we just want you to slow down"
B0ll0cks!
>> Edited by blueyes on Thursday 9th September 12:57
g_attrill said:
I guess when they say "any of the money" then just mean what's left over after nearly all the money has been reclaimed after admin.....
I seem to remeber Cambridgeshire (?) publishing their figures, took in 2.7 million, gave £74 pounds ONLY to Gordon Browns kitty after expenses were deducted...
not out to make money MY ARSE!!!
wilkos said:
Huge amounts of the NHS resources are used to care and treat people involved in road traffic collisions. For the cost of looking after one person with serious injuries resulting from a road traffic collision, the NHS could perform 5 heart transplants.
I love this above quote from their speed information section.
Where do they think the healthy hearts for those transplants come from?
IIRC the 'average' cost of NHS treatment after an accident is about £300 - and is claimed from the motorist's insurance.
There are small numbers of serious injuries with large costs - and that's what the NHS is there for. Just like other serious injuries from other causes.
I don't suppose anyone hurt in a rail crash ever went to hospital...
Size Nine Elm said:
Huge amounts of the NHS resources are used to care and treat people involved in road traffic collisions. For the cost of looking after one person with serious injuries resulting from a road traffic collision, the NHS could perform 5 heart transplants.
I love this above quote from their speed information section.
Where do they think the healthy hearts for those transplants come from?
IIRC the 'average' cost of NHS treatment after an accident is about £300 - and is claimed from the motorist's insurance.
There are small numbers of serious injuries with large costs - and that's what the NHS is there for. Just like other serious injuries from other causes.
I don't suppose anyone hurt in a rail crash ever went to hospital...
Exactly!
After paying car tax, insuance tax, tax on petrol, VAT on the car purchase and maybe a few speeding tickets you would have thought we maybe deserve a bit of NHS treatment every now and then!
Streetcop said:
Have a look at the link below....read the text then click each man..
It's a true conversation, I tell you. It's true.
www.slowitdown.co.uk/faq.asp
Street
Aside from the end .. in real life man on left punches man on right.
arkham said:
LOL play the "speed challenge on the site, see if you can get through the obsticals while going as fast as you can..... oh wait? ... thats not the point is it?
eep "apparently we drive on the left in this country
Hmmm ... had a few goes and I either mowed down children ... or was involved in horrific head on crash. Same results no matter what speed. Shame theres no option to walk.
>> Edited by The Wiz on Thursday 9th September 14:16
arkham said:I crashed head-on into an on-coming car at a variety of speeds from 10mph to 100mph, each time four people died. I don't understand why they died when I was travelling below the speed limit
LOL play the "speed challenge on the site, see if you can get through the obsticals while going as fast as you can..... oh wait? ... thats not the point is it?
wilkos said:
Huge amounts of the NHS resources are used to care and treat people involved in road traffic collisions. For the cost of looking after one person with serious injuries resulting from a road traffic collision, the NHS could perform 5 heart transplants.
I love this above quote from their speed information section.
Where do they think the healthy hearts for those transplants come from?
Interestingly enough, the NHS 'kills' more people a year through superbugs (MRSA) than die on the roads each year:
"A recent report by the National Audit Office (NAO) estimated that 5,000 patients a year die from infections they pick up once admitted to hospital. It was estimated that hospital-acquired infections (HAIs) play a contributory role in another 15,000 deaths each year. "
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/787445.stm
Now call me old fashioned, but added together, that's 20,000 per year. I don't think this compares that well with the 3,500 road deaths. If you believe the government figures, then speed is a contributory factor in one third of those - just over 1000 - 5% of the numbers for which hospital acquired infections are a contributory factor.
I'd like to see road deaths reduce - who wouldn't (I won't bore everyone with my usual training/raised testing standards argument just now), but it seems to me that there's a bit of smoke and mirrors in the emphasis placed by HMG on saving lives.
Annoying speed-obsessed numpty in pub said:
"if you hit somebody at 35 miles per hour, you're twice as likely to kill them as you are if you hit them doing 30..."
Which perfectly explains the attitudes of these numpties to road traffic accidents: if everybody drives at 0mph then there will be no deaths.
Whereas, the attitude should be (IMHO): how do we stop pedestrians stepping out without looking; drivers not paying attention to the road and likely obstacles; unsafe vehicles from being driven; etc....
"if you hit somebody at 35 miles per hour, you're twice as likely to kill them as you are if you hit them doing 30..."
Which perfectly explains the attitudes of these numpties to road traffic accidents: if everybody drives at 0mph then there will be no deaths.
Whereas, the attitude should be (IMHO): how do we stop pedestrians stepping out without looking; drivers not paying attention to the road and likely obstacles; unsafe vehicles from being driven; etc....
rude girl said:
Huge amounts of the NHS resources are used to care and treat people involved in road traffic collisions. For the cost of looking after one person with serious injuries resulting from a road traffic collision, the NHS could perform 5 heart transplants.
I love this above quote from their speed information section.
Where do they think the healthy hearts for those transplants come from?
Interestingly enough, the NHS 'kills' more people a year through superbugs (MRSA) than die on the roads each year:
"A recent report by the National Audit Office (NAO) estimated that 5,000 patients a year die from infections they pick up once admitted to hospital. It was estimated that hospital-acquired infections (HAIs) play a contributory role in another 15,000 deaths each year. "
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/787445.stm
Now call me old fashioned, but added together, that's 20,000 per year. I don't think this compares that well with the 3,500 road deaths. If you believe the government figures, then speed is a contributory factor in one third of those - just over 1000 - 5% of the numbers for which hospital acquired infections are a contributory factor.
I'd like to see road deaths reduce - who wouldn't (I won't bore everyone with my usual training/raised testing standards argument just now), but it seems to me that there's a bit of smoke and mirrors in the emphasis placed by HMG on saving lives.
Well said rude girl and Wilkos - I was going to post something along the same lines.
anyone that believes "Huge amounts of the NHS resources are used to care and treat people involved in road traffic collisions. For the cost of looking after one person with serious injuries resulting from a road traffic collision, the NHS could perform 5 heart transplants." clearly needs to pull their head out of their ass
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