Sport to full fat
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Can't comment on the TDV8 as I've on;y veer driven one once but I guess you'd know that as you own one!
As far as Sport to FF then yes definately reccomend it.
My friend has a Sport and I find it quite small compared to my FF (both supercharged), and I would have mine over his any day of the week. Personal preference I suppose, go and test drive one.
As far as Sport to FF then yes definately reccomend it.
My friend has a Sport and I find it quite small compared to my FF (both supercharged), and I would have mine over his any day of the week. Personal preference I suppose, go and test drive one.
In terms of size, on the outside the FF is marginally taller, but otherwise pretty similar. Inside the FF feels much larger and plusher to boot. You can also buy an IIDTool (little box that plugs into the OBD port) which allows you to mess with the cars config, but also lower the suspension. I find a 25mm drop means I can chase Sports around corners all day long, but also know that I am in what I feel is the nicer car. The FF seats are definitely more comfortable.
In terms of performance, until you lower it a FF won't quite go round corners as fast as a Sport, but to be honest it'll still go round fast enough to give you a shock. They both weigh roughly the same and share similar braking systems, so acceleration / deceleration is similar. The FF has a more subdued exhaust system, so it's less "sporty" in sound, I corrected mine with a non-resonated 2.5" stainless system with x-pipe & sports cats which means the car sounds rather more "sporty" than it actually is, but is still near silent on the motorway.
In terms of performance, until you lower it a FF won't quite go round corners as fast as a Sport, but to be honest it'll still go round fast enough to give you a shock. They both weigh roughly the same and share similar braking systems, so acceleration / deceleration is similar. The FF has a more subdued exhaust system, so it's less "sporty" in sound, I corrected mine with a non-resonated 2.5" stainless system with x-pipe & sports cats which means the car sounds rather more "sporty" than it actually is, but is still near silent on the motorway.
Simon T said:
Tempting.... What about the impact on engine reliability and life?
I had mine re-mapped by JE. Makes a big difference for a few hundred £'s - the torque curve at 800NM (circa. 600lbs/ft) is immense. Improves fuel consumption a little also (5%) mainly because you use less throttle to make the same progress. Had no problems over many miles with the JE remap and neither has anyone I am aware of. I now have a 4.4 TDV8 and it's on par with the JE remapped 3.6 TDV8 for performance, only the MPG is further improved with the 4.4. Watch out for unproven non-JE remaps. You need to check out www.fullfatrr.com
Simon,
you will not regret it. I went from a sport to FF a few years ago and never looked back.. now gone from a 3.6TDV8 to the 4.4TDV8 with the new 8 speed gear box. Immensely capable. I dont use the FF to go flat out anywhere - its not that kind of ride, but I suspect your driving profile is similar to mine - I see you post a lot in the Aston Forum. I have a Virage Volante I use for fun - Perfect compliment to the FF. Look out for the new sport over the next 18 months - it will be based on the FF chassis (rather the the disco chassis it currently uses) so will be worlds apart from the current sport and FF.
2nd a look at the FF forum mentioned above - nice bunch and very helpful.
cheers
James.
you will not regret it. I went from a sport to FF a few years ago and never looked back.. now gone from a 3.6TDV8 to the 4.4TDV8 with the new 8 speed gear box. Immensely capable. I dont use the FF to go flat out anywhere - its not that kind of ride, but I suspect your driving profile is similar to mine - I see you post a lot in the Aston Forum. I have a Virage Volante I use for fun - Perfect compliment to the FF. Look out for the new sport over the next 18 months - it will be based on the FF chassis (rather the the disco chassis it currently uses) so will be worlds apart from the current sport and FF.
2nd a look at the FF forum mentioned above - nice bunch and very helpful.
cheers
James.
Well, I've had FF for a week now. Here are my thoughts so far:-
Westover Landrover - Nice dealer, good service and car was well prep'd
Its bigger, inside and out, plenty more room inside especially in the rear and the luggage space. Outside it seems a bit wider than the RRS and is much bigger than my P38. Driving position is similar and seats are comfy (although so are Sport seats and heaters in Sport seats are stronger). Cabin is better appointed, colours and stlye of dash etc are better than the suicide black of the RRS. Audo is pretty good and will play cleanly at louder volume than the RRS. Rear DVD screens and personal headsets are a big plus with the kids (although at 22 and 20 I expected more feedback from them
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Road manners are good, bit more body roll but it can still be hustled along if needed. Performance; acceleration seems a bit down on the RRS, is the ECU map different? Brakes are same. Consumption is very similar to date at about 23 mpg.
Not been off road yet but it will have to be good to beat the RRS, which was superb given 20" road tyres!
Overall I am pleased with the change so far.
If you need the space and or want a bit more oppulence I would go for the FF if you want a more sporty ride and styling the RRS - I guess thats exactly what Land Rover planned
Simon
BTW I have a set of 19" RRS wheels and winter tyres left over....
Westover Landrover - Nice dealer, good service and car was well prep'd
Its bigger, inside and out, plenty more room inside especially in the rear and the luggage space. Outside it seems a bit wider than the RRS and is much bigger than my P38. Driving position is similar and seats are comfy (although so are Sport seats and heaters in Sport seats are stronger). Cabin is better appointed, colours and stlye of dash etc are better than the suicide black of the RRS. Audo is pretty good and will play cleanly at louder volume than the RRS. Rear DVD screens and personal headsets are a big plus with the kids (although at 22 and 20 I expected more feedback from them
)Road manners are good, bit more body roll but it can still be hustled along if needed. Performance; acceleration seems a bit down on the RRS, is the ECU map different? Brakes are same. Consumption is very similar to date at about 23 mpg.
Not been off road yet but it will have to be good to beat the RRS, which was superb given 20" road tyres!
Overall I am pleased with the change so far.
If you need the space and or want a bit more oppulence I would go for the FF if you want a more sporty ride and styling the RRS - I guess thats exactly what Land Rover planned
Simon
BTW I have a set of 19" RRS wheels and winter tyres left over....
The throttle map might be a little different, to make it a bit "waftier", but it could also be the previous owner. They have an adaptive gearbox on them which seems to average out the last 500 miles driving (give or take a bit) and decide on shift patterns to match. If you mash the throttle at every possible occasion your gearbox will wake up and the car will feel faster. Alternatively you can do what I do and use D for wafting around (e.g. Going to work at 6am) and S for being a bit more spirited (e.g. Going home after work ...)
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