Motorway screens
Discussion
The government has purchased 3000 'screens' (must be hightech) at a cost of £2.3M or £22k a set.
How does the Road Minister think that by adding more work to the highways agency will get the accident cleaned up quicker?
Besides the point that a few bits of metal and ground sheets costing £22,000!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20851775
How does the Road Minister think that by adding more work to the highways agency will get the accident cleaned up quicker?
Besides the point that a few bits of metal and ground sheets costing £22,000!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20851775
Edited by SWE6SPEED on Thursday 27th December 19:35
ridds said:
More wasted money, more people and vehicles to move them around, more time to erect and remove them.
Madness.
I guess they could be useful in some serious cases but I thought that roads were just closed these days when a serious incident occurs.
Good to see people still talk from a position of knowing feck all Madness.
I guess they could be useful in some serious cases but I thought that roads were just closed these days when a serious incident occurs.
.The local Hato's will deploy them (along with spill kits & strain gauges to shift hgv's, 'h&s you know
') with their current vehicles as many Isu's have been 'binned'22k seems a bit steep but it will include maintenance contracts etc for the trailers, trailers ain't cheap you know
Anyway they wouldn't need them if silly feckers just drove past without slowing down to film the accident
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 27th December 20:41
All in favour of these if they stop the gawping mouth breather morons who cause accidents on the other side of the road because they can't resist staring at an accident. They sound cheap compared to the cost of the congestion and damage caused by the feckless twunts who think someone else's crash is another bit of reality TV.
charltjr said:
All in favour of these if they stop the gawping mouth breather morons who cause accidents on the other side of the road because they can't resist staring at an accident. They sound cheap compared to the cost of the congestion and damage caused by the feckless twunts who think someone else's crash is another bit of reality TV.
Agreed.speedyguy said:
ridds said:
More wasted money, more people and vehicles to move them around, more time to erect and remove them.
Madness.
I guess they could be useful in some serious cases but I thought that roads were just closed these days when a serious incident occurs.
Good to see people still talk from a position of knowing feck all Madness.
I guess they could be useful in some serious cases but I thought that roads were just closed these days when a serious incident occurs.
.The local Hato's will deploy them (along with spill kits & strain gauges to shift hgv's, 'h&s you know
') with their current vehicles as many Isu's have been 'binned'22k seems a bit steep but it will include maintenance contracts etc for the trailers, trailers ain't cheap you know
Anyway they wouldn't need them if silly feckers just drove past without slowing down to film the accident
Edited by speedyguy on Thursday 27th December 20:41
It's human nature to be inquisitive and chucking a screen up will not stop people TRYING to look, which is the problem. I've lost track of the times I have sat in queues only to get to the "bottleneck" only to find it's cause by people just driving slowly by. There is/was nothing to look at and you would think that they realise that driving slowly is causing the jam that they have just sat in however, they still do it. How is a screen going to stop that.
As for knowing feck all, I use the roads and experience lane closures so why exactly am I not allowed my opinion? Or shall we lock this thread down to people associated with the Highways Agency, wobbles etc etc.
ridds said:
I will duly look forward to the first time I see these deployed and them making any difference what-so-ever. I have a pretty good hunch they won't and if anything will actually make things worse due to people looking harder to try and see round them!
On the rare occasions they are used traffic does flow faster, especially on the opposite c/way.I would say they would be handy if a silly fecker decides to hang off the edge of the Avonmouth bridge again and causes hours of mayhem, all it takes is a copper with a set of b
ks to run a lane or two past 'the incident' to keep stuff moving albeit slowly and move closures in/out if they get unhappy with traffic getting too fast past the scene.ridds said:
ridds said:
More wasted money, more people and vehicles to move them around, more time to erect and remove them.
Madness.
I guess they could be useful in some serious cases but I thought that roads were just closed these days when a serious incident occurs.
As for knowing feck all, I use the roads and experience lane closures so why exactly am I not allowed my opinion? Or shall we lock this thread down to people associated with the Highways Agency, wobbles etc etc. Madness.
I guess they could be useful in some serious cases but I thought that roads were just closed these days when a serious incident occurs.
,, people have being moaning like fooook about the length and cost of closures, 'The road death investigation manual' is being looked at/into to make changes, chapter 8 traffic management is being looked at, new laser scanners are 'in use'. Come up with some suggestions apart from shove it to the side to speed things up bearing in mind it's the Police, fire & ambo who are top banana on scene until handover.Slobberchops said:
So now the emergency services won't be able to see the traffic before it ploughs into them. Great thinking.
Would rather keep an eye in what is going on thanks.
Hahahaha, you don't think the traffic will be crawling past with cones & signs all the way up to the screens ? We know many drivers are thick fooooks but it's unlikely. Probably as unlikely as a truck ploughing into a lane closure and car with vms and cars lit up like Blackpool illuminations, Oh hang on a minute Would rather keep an eye in what is going on thanks.
Slobberchops said:
So now the emergency services won't be able to see the traffic before it ploughs into them. Great thinking.
Would rather keep an eye in what is going on thanks.
Yes, those mileage boards/posts dotted all over our motorways have absolutely no purpose, not to mention the behaviour of the traffic as they approach the scene Would rather keep an eye in what is going on thanks.
Baz Tench said:
Slobberchops said:
So now the emergency services won't be able to see the traffic before it ploughs into them. Great thinking.
Would rather keep an eye in what is going on thanks.
Yes, those mileage boards/posts dotted all over our motorways have absolutely no purpose, not to mention the behaviour of the traffic as they approach the scene Would rather keep an eye in what is going on thanks.
ridds said:
I will duly look forward to the first time I see these deployed and them making any difference what-so-ever. I have a pretty good hunch they won't and if anything will actually make things worse due to people looking harder to try and see round them!
I think one of the biggest issues these days is people filming accident scenes with their phones, by screening off the scene there will be nothing of interest to film, so in theory it should speed up the traffic. Not sure how you would be able to see around them, they're around 10-12ft tall I believe.At long last. They needed this sometime ago. Will help speed up approaching traffic and also traffic flow on the opposite side too. Some countries already have a screen dividing the two flows of traffic lanes, just for this pupose. I also believe that some countries have a raised embankment in the central reservation, with a single track lane for emergency vehicles only. This also stops driver from the opposing motorway lanes from rubber necking too.
I thought that the screens might be painted HI-VIS though, or with some lighting/marking.
I thought that the screens might be painted HI-VIS though, or with some lighting/marking.
Fixed chapter 8 signage will more than likely be out where they are in use, and traffic tends to be slow on the cway where the incident is due to reduced capacity (this in no way is unlikely to reduce the ability of a feckwit to run into the back of a queue though).
There will probably also be scene lighting (depending on the new Isu/mac contracts),
why would lighting stop people running into them ?, many still manage to run into fully lit up BIB cars, recovery vehicles etc on the hard shoulder
There will probably also be scene lighting (depending on the new Isu/mac contracts),
why would lighting stop people running into them ?, many still manage to run into fully lit up BIB cars, recovery vehicles etc on the hard shoulder
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