Production Car Trials-Tyre help needed
Production Car Trials-Tyre help needed
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oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Have been doing Sprints for a while and wanting to have a go at Production Car Trials as well this year. Now we have a Saxo and thinking of just using different pairs of front wheels/tyres for the two disciplines. Using Advan AD008's for sprints (worked well last season, lots of wins!) but need guidance on best ones for Trials, Need to be in MSA list 1A.

Anyone got any experience please?

Have one recommendation on Uniroyal Rain Expert but wondering if there is anything nearer M&S type patterns that are legal?

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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oldboyracer said:
Have been doing Sprints for a while and wanting to have a go at Production Car Trials as well this year. Now we have a Saxo and thinking of just using different pairs of front wheels/tyres for the two disciplines. Using Advan AD008's for sprints (worked well last season, lots of wins!) but need guidance on best ones for Trials, Need to be in MSA list 1A.

Anyone got any experience please?

Have one recommendation on Uniroyal Rain Expert but wondering if there is anything nearer M&S type patterns that are legal?
The new EU tyre regulations are your friend I guess - they now grade all new tyres on wet grip. It should just be a case of finding out which tyres on the list are A-rated.

oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Yes I thought that about the EU wet rating but i also thought its about tread pattern to not clog up and grip in slippery/muddy conditions. Where the EU regs mislead is my Yokohama AD008's are wet rating B but almost slicks! wouldnt give any grip on a grassy/muddy hill!

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Would winter tyres work, or you could go along to a car trial and see what everyone is using.

oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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you are specifically excluded from using winter tyres and can only use tyres from the MSA Blue Book List 1A. There are about 100 in there so not an easy task to look at each tread pattern hence seeking recommendations!

oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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and 1st event on Jan 20!

Map Man

4 posts

165 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Hi oldboyracer,

I've been doing the BTRDA car trials championship for the last three years in a Saxo. The Uniroyal Rainexperts are excellent, the difference on wet grass between them and the other road-pattern tyres I have tried is remarkable. They seem to be the best legal option by quite a margin.

Fit them reverse-direction, it makes sense when you look at the tread pattern.

Hope you enjoy the events you do- I've found trials both addictive and a fantastic challenge!


oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Thnanks Map Man, I did get the recommendation from a championship winner but he said he recommended them to someone else who thought they were rubbish-hence the question. Will prob go with these unless there is overwhelming evidence otherwise!

oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Map Man....... what size are you running on the Saxo by the way?

oldboyracer

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275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Map Man....... what size are you running on the Saxo by the way?

Map Man

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165 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Well I use a 1.1 Saxo on trials so its on 155/70 13s. I assume you have a VTR or S if you are using it for sprints as well? All Saxos seem to go well on trials, the suspension seems to soak up uneven ground. There are several VTRs about at the moment and the low down torque they have make them a good choice in the right hands.

oldboyracer

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49 posts

275 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Yes sadly I have the 120hp VTS which probably isnt right for this with its torque high up but never done it so worth a go, I have 195/50/15's on the sprint tyres and they only just clear everything! Power isnt everything in this I understand