What breaks......Floods and water in the engine
What breaks......Floods and water in the engine
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ratboiler

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441 posts

221 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Hi I am living just up from a flooded road which at the moment is around 2 feet deep and closed to traffic, and there are still people willing to give it a go, some get through but a lot of BMW drivers are not, latest one to fall fowl was a 5 series, I happen to know the guy who has just been told by the garage that he faces a 19k bill for a new engine.
Having stripped a few engines in my time and knowing that water is not compressible what actually breaks in the engine? I would have thought the head gasket would have gone first?

TallPaul

1,524 posts

288 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Con rods usually bend.

jagracer

8,248 posts

266 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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samuelellis

1,927 posts

231 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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jagracer said:
it is scary to think of the force required to do that

marting

668 posts

204 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Con rod frown painful experience...

Stelvio1

1,153 posts

257 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Indeed hydraulicing is not good!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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I saw a boat engine once that snapped the crank when water got up the exhaust.

However it kept running

Mastodon2

14,333 posts

195 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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19K for a new engine? What was he driving?

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

193 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Mastodon2 said:
19K for a new engine? What was he driving?
OP says 5 series......the one fitted with platinum pistonsconfused

eldar

25,292 posts

226 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Mastodon2 said:
19K for a new engine? What was he driving?
New engine, ecu, turbo(s), other odds & ends BMW rate labour + VAT. Kind of plausible.

real4star

7,032 posts

167 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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jagracer said:
That's just a kink, an American acquaintances Discovery 2 can beat that after some wading



yikes

Flying Phil

1,740 posts

175 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Some years ago I drove our Alfa 156 through some water _ only as deep as the top of the sill but the engine stopped and I had to take the plugs out and spin it on the starter. Got it going again and all seemed well for two weeks....... then the engine went Bang! The air intake to the air filter is surprisingly (Expensively!!) low on a 156.frown

J4CKO

46,904 posts

230 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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I think I know why its BMW's having the problems, I was told about King Canute as a kid thinking the water would respond to his commands, I think BMW drivers think the same, well I have heard peopel call them Canutes, or something similar.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

178 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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9 out of 10 times a rod bends as already mentioned. Sometimes the crank may snap.

If It's really lucky and low speed you may be remove plugs, spin it over and pump out water and it will run again. Water won't compress very much so as the piston rises something has to give if It's full of water.

omniflow

3,848 posts

181 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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J4CKO said:
I think I know why its BMW's having the problems, I was told about King Canute as a kid thinking the water would respond to his commands, I think BMW drivers think the same, well I have heard peopel call them Canutes, or something similar.
Google the Canute story, you've got it all wrong.

He didn't think the water would respond to his commands. The point was he was demonstrating the exact opposite.

4key

12,111 posts

178 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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jagracer said:
That'll lower the compression a bit, just throw more boost and fuel in to compensate thumbup

JDMDrifter

4,063 posts

195 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Only issue I've had on my car is water drowns the carb , if you can keep the engine running at 2k rpm for about 10-15 mins it dries out and is fine smile

Vipers

33,514 posts

258 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Why be a dick and drive through water?




smile

MoelyCrio

2,502 posts

212 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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I'm not an engineer, so forgive the ignorance, but why don't the piston rings (or something else?) give up before the water compression bends the solid thing?

LeeMad

1,098 posts

183 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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MoelyCrio said:
I'm not an engineer, so forgive the ignorance, but why don't the piston rings (or something else?) give up before the water compression bends the solid thing?
it happens pretty quickly, too quickly for the water to be squeezed through a small gap like between the rings. dont forget the force the crank is being turned with is enough to move 1-2 tonnes of metal