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Ferg

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279 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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It occurs to me that with the light weight properties of GRP and more bespoke possibilities afforded by kit building, that a kit camper of fairly compact size might be an idea.
Ownership of camper vans seems to have increased, but tend to be quite thirsty. Rickman and Starcraft both attempted it, but none seem to exist now. What do you reckon? Small two berth, multi-use interior?

Turn7

25,244 posts

243 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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Cheap Transit connect and some DIY offers the same thing surely ?

GTRCLIVE

4,193 posts

305 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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I'm with Clarkson... This is car forum and the mere mention of a Camper Van makes me think mobile road block redcardbanghead

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Nikolai

284 posts

168 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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I thought this would be a decent idea too, but the tricky bit in my opinion is to choose a donor engine and/or chassis. A custom ladder chassis would be fine but would you make it front engined fwd or go like the VW t2 and go rear engined. Depends on desired styling I suppose.

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

291 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Ferg said:
It occurs to me that with the light weight properties of GRP and more bespoke possibilities afforded by kit building, that a kit camper of fairly compact size might be an idea.
Ownership of camper vans seems to have increased, but tend to be quite thirsty. Rickman and Starcraft both attempted it, but none seem to exist now. What do you reckon? Small two berth, multi-use interior?
I think that it would be a very interesting niche for the kitcar industry to work on and I'm sure there is a new market for something like it.

It would need to have an original design and unique with an affordable price, but I'm sure it can be done...smile

Ferg

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Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Turn7 said:
Cheap Transit connect and some DIY offers the same thing surely ?
If you want something that looks like a Connect, yes.
To me Kitcars are all about NOT having something everyone else has and creating something different. I suppose converting a van is fine for some.

Turn7

25,244 posts

243 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Ferg said:
Turn7 said:
Cheap Transit connect and some DIY offers the same thing surely ?
If you want something that looks like a Connect, yes.
To me Kitcars are all about NOT having something everyone else has and creating something different. I suppose converting a van is fine for some.
Was thinking more from a finance perspective TBH, cannot see it being cost effective, unless, of course the pleasure is in the build and owning something unique.

Ferg

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279 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Ah...anyone building a kitcar for the financial benefit is barking up the wrong tree.

FlossyThePig

4,138 posts

265 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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The Rickman brothers were making their Rancher model before they got screwed by some Russians. I don't know how many were sold.

A couple of years ago I used to pass a van being converted into a camper van. A bit crude and never looked finished. It's gone a bit green now but it is used, well, it moves of the drive.

gtmdriver

333 posts

195 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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There was the Cortina based Starcraft from the Spartan stable



and a similar Austin Princess based kit whose name I forget.


Frankthered

1,666 posts

202 months

Tuesday 1st January 2013
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Didn't the Frontera have a ladder frame chassis?

Could be an interesting option to avoid IVA.

Not what I'd call an exceptional donor, but I guess they're really cheap!!!

smash

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250 months

fuoriserie

4,560 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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I remember sseing the Toppola a few months ago in Sweden on a Saab 99 Kombi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toppola



A modern inspired Toppola is now manufactured in Japan for the Toyota Prius:

http://www.canp-inn-japan.com/box3/type.html?id=80...


Why not an inexpensive Bedford Rascal/ Suzuky Carry for a base ? :
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bedford_Ras...
https://picasaweb.google.com/106526935125883283147...

Edited by fuoriserie on Wednesday 2nd January 09:40

FlossyThePig

4,138 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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fuoriserie said:
I remember sseing the Toppola a few months ago in Sweden on a Saab 99 Kombi:
If you are going to convert a Saab it has to have a Scandinavian theme.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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what happened to the chap who was developing a repica vw spit screen camper van ?

Fastpedeller

4,154 posts

168 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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Frankthered said:
Didn't the Frontera have a ladder frame chassis?

Could be an interesting option to avoid IVA.

Not what I'd call an exceptional donor, but I guess they're really cheap!!!
ISTR if you are converting to a motorhome/Camper whatever we call it, that it needs IVA even if you use the original chassis.

andygtt

8,345 posts

286 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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why not make a rebody for a VW camper... I mean most of them are rotting away on someones drive biggrin

Ferg

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15,242 posts

279 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Mine seems to have disappeared... scratchchin

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

246 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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I think the main problem with this in 2013, is that you can still buy project splitties for under 10k and bays for under 5K. No kit outlay costs and no IVA, so there is no real point especially as the residual value of a rebuilt splittie is HUGE!!! This is the same situation mentioned here though several years back when somebody asked if a replica MK1 Escort was viable. Back then £3k got you a rough donor real one to rebuild, but now........ The day wrecks of bays are over 10k and splitties over 20K ( which may soon happen ) a kit might make more sense, but I think for now rebuilding a real one is still viable and a good place to put your cash.

Ferg

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Thursday 3rd January 2013
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What are you on about, Lee?