PCM phone / SIM card
PCM phone / SIM card
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996 turbo

Original Poster:

415 posts

295 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Hi,

Does anyone know why the PCM phone only works with certain SIM cards. I've just changed to BT the SIM works fine in the phone but not in the car. The car is able to read the card, it transfers the phone book etc... But the calls blocked symbol comes up i.e. crossed out handset. I've tried in a few locations so it's not signal and my old O2 SIM still works fine. It's like it's network blocked or something. Is there anything I can do about getting it unblocked / working? Anyone else have this problem?

Steve, 996TT

996 turbo

Original Poster:

415 posts

295 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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I'm just about to answer my own question (just in case anyone might be interested in the answer). The built in phone only works on 900Ghz frequency (voda, O2). The other UK network operators use 1800Ghz inc BT. This is not usually an issue as most phones are dual or tri band but PCM is single band.

Steve, 996TT

buster

1,060 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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I had same problem - couldn't get my O2 sim to work.

Instead moved to Vodaphone - then for extra £5 you get second sim to leave in the car.

Just wish I had PCM2 so it doesn't take 3 years to dial a number

tifosi

254 posts

296 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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Buster, you said you got a duplicate SIM for £5, I checked this out last year and they were asking an outrageous amount. Is this something new, and is there a specific name for the service?

t urbo

218 posts

291 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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i had the same problem getting my T mobile sim to load. Try inserting the sim then ejecting it then reloading it again, as o2, t mobile, voda and orange all should work ok.

buster

1,060 posts

313 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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tifosi said:
Buster, you said you got a duplicate SIM for £5, I checked this out last year and they were asking an outrageous amount. Is this something new, and is there a specific name for the service?


I literally just called Vodaphone services - charge of £5, arrived via post! (That was about Jan this year).

996 turbo

Original Poster:

415 posts

295 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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t urbo said:
i had the same problem getting my T mobile sim to load. Try inserting the sim then ejecting it then reloading it again, as o2, t mobile, voda and orange all should work ok.


Have you got PCM 1 or 2?

Steve, 996TT

ian_dorrian

110 posts

277 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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I was looking at this yesterday and the service from Vodaphone is called multiSIM and costs £7+VAT per additional handset per month.

Ian D

lightweight

1,165 posts

277 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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I have multi SIM and it is good but you loose GPRS and the bundled calles to other networks!!

Azura_tzo

671 posts

292 months

Saturday 11th September 2004
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ian_dorrian said:
I was looking at this yesterday and the service from Vodaphone is called multiSIM and costs £7+VAT per additional handset per month.

Ian D



How does multi sim work? Do both phones ring?

ian_dorrian

110 posts

277 months

Saturday 11th September 2004
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Apparently all you do is key *131# then press send.

A few moments later you will receive an on-screen message confirming the device is active to recieve your incoming calls and texts.

996 turbo

Original Poster:

415 posts

295 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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ian_dorrian said:
Apparently all you do is key *131# then press send.

A few moments later you will receive an on-screen message confirming the device is active to recieve your incoming calls and texts.


What does this do? Is this the code to register a new SIM card in your PCM?

grant3

3,704 posts

284 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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BT sim card works fine in my PCM1 !!!

ian_dorrian

110 posts

277 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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996 turbo said:

ian_dorrian said:
Apparently all you do is key *131# then press send.

A few moments later you will receive an on-screen message confirming the device is active to recieve your incoming calls and texts.



What does this do? Is this the code to register a new SIM card in your PCM?


Not as such, all it does is tells the network to route the calls to that sim card until it recieves the same instruction from another device which will then become the active device.

grant3

3,704 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Hi Steve,
thanks for the mail, can't say I did anything special with the BT sim card simply took it out of a pay as you go phone we didn't use any more & popped it into the PCM1 unit & it worked ok.
I just tried taking it out of the PCM & putting it back in again & intially it also had the call barred sign until I tried to do a manual dial & all was ok again, try it on yours. It is definitely a BT sim, I double checked it!
I can only suggest(probably incorrectly) that....
1/ The sim isn't seated properly & needs some adjustment..have a fiddle.
2/ Or something silly like you don't have any credit (or it has timed out) on the sim, stupid idea but possible.
Sorry I can't be more help, let me know how you get on.

tifosi

254 posts

296 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Haven't researched it, but couldn't you buy a cheap pay-as-you go phone + sim, remove sim, place it permanently in your PCM slot and set your main phone to divert if switched off. Then switch off your phone when driving. i guess you would receive any calls as normal.

simonrockman

7,114 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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There are a few things going on here. One is to understand which network the 'BT' card is on. BT used to mean BT Cellnet, which is now O2, but when O2 floated off BT started selling O2 airtime and then moved to T-Mobile (they've just announced a Voda deal too). So this affects the frequency:

O2 - 900MHz (with some 1800MHz)
Vodafone - 900MHz (with some 1800MHz)
Orange - 1800MHz only
T-Mobile - 1800MHz only.

So if the car phone is only 900MHz that means O2 or Vodafone.

There is also an issue with old SIMs in new phones. In a bid to save power the voltages phones use has dropped from 5v to 3v. Old 5v SIMs won't work in some newer phones (although a lot support both).

I'd get a Vodafone (or O2) pre-pay for the car and set a divert from your handset:

Call Divert (all call types)

All
Set: **21*destination#[SEND]
Cancel: ##21#[SEND]
Query: *#21#[SEND]

No Answer
Delay nn seconds: max is generally 30 seconds
Set: **61*destination*nn#[SEND]
Cancel: ##61#[SEND]
Query: *#61#[SEND]

Unreachable
Set: **62*destination#[SEND]
Cancel: #62#[SEND]
Query: *#62#[SEND]

Busy
Set: **67*destination#[SEND]
Cancel: ##67#[SEND]
Query: *#67#[SEND]

Cancel All
##002#[SEND]


Simon

996 turbo

Original Poster:

415 posts

295 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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tifosi said:
Haven't researched it, but couldn't you buy a cheap pay-as-you go phone + sim, remove sim, place it permanently in your PCM slot and set your main phone to divert if switched off. Then switch off your phone when driving. i guess you would receive any calls as normal.


Great idea, I'll try it later, now where did I put that manual...

Steve, 996TT

996 turbo

Original Poster:

415 posts

295 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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simonrockman said:
I'd get a Vodafone (or O2) pre-pay for the car and set a divert from your handset:

Call Divert (all call types)

All
Set: **21*destination#[SEND]
Cancel: ##21#[SEND]
Query: *#21#[SEND]

No Answer
Delay nn seconds: max is generally 30 seconds
Set: **61*destination*nn#[SEND]
Cancel: ##61#[SEND]
Query: *#61#[SEND]

Unreachable
Set: **62*destination#[SEND]
Cancel: #62#[SEND]
Query: *#62#[SEND]

Busy
Set: **67*destination#[SEND]
Cancel: ##67#[SEND]
Query: *#67#[SEND]

Cancel All
##002#[SEND]


Simon


Cheers, Simon. Is the unreachable option divert if switched off?

Steve, 996TT

Adam B

29,703 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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O2 and Vodafone is just PCM1 right?

PCM2 works with both frequenices so T-Monile and Orngne should also be OK?