Networking is really simple.....

Networking is really simple.....

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slinky

15,704 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Silly question... Is it definitely a cross-over cable?

slinky

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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....so they told me.

NIC card in desktop (running XP - Realtek 8139/810x), adaptor in laptop (Win 98 - Netgear FA411) and a crossover cable inbetween.

Done that.

Now have icon telling me that a cable is unplugged. I'ved looked, it's not.

Taken card out of PC and re-installed it, still the same.

Kicked it, swore a lot, even borrowed next door's dog to kick as we don't have any pets......

What have I killed?

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Yup, came with an old (Non-XP compatible) Belkin kit.

Superflid

Original Poster:

2,254 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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I should have said....

I've been attacking this for most of the day. When I first began I didn't have this problem (plenty of others!) as the icon correctly told me when the laptop was switched on or off.

paolow

3,209 posts

258 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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ive also got this problem when trying to sort a ntwork. card is installed, router is fine, everything works. but it doesnt. real REAL PITA. i just dont know what to do. the nic has an ip but theres the usual 'cable is discoed prob'

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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Been trawling through dozens of links from Google, all with the same problem, all with different causes!
Seems like whatever is wrong with the setup the "A network cable is disconnected" message is the only one available.

rebelstar

1,146 posts

244 months

Thursday 9th September 2004
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I've had this before but it always seem to sort itself out if you have enough patience.

Windows will make up IP addresses in the 169.254.x.x range when left to its own devices. Sometimes you just have to wait a few minutes (at least 2, I've found) for it to figure out that it has a direct network connection to another machine.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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Are the Tx/Rx lights on the cards on (if they have them)?

Chances are autonegotiation of speed isn't working properly. Go into the properties of each adapter and force the speed and duplex mode of each card and set them both to 100 half duplex.

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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PLayed around with speed settings, with both at 10 full duplex things are improving!

It now realises that the cable is plugged in.......

Still having problems getting anything else happening, but now stopped kicking next door's dog.

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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Yipeee!!!!

Laptop can now browse t'internet.

Next problem...........

Tried to export the favorites folder to laptop but got message that I don't have permission to access the file. Something to do with administrators permission I suppose.
Snag is that logged on as another user doesn't give me the favorites folder I need.

How? Please......

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

241 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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You need to add your laptop user onto your desktop and vice versa. Then change the permissions of the shared folder to include the other machines. IYSWIM.

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Friday 10th September 2004
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eeeerrrrr.......

No.

Superflid

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2,254 posts

265 months

Saturday 11th September 2004
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Things have gone from poor to worse......

As the net connection was working OK I decided it would be a good idea to use Windows update as the laptop had a clean install of 98.
Downloaded all of the security updates (leaving IE 6.0 until later) and after they installed I restarted the laptop.

Now the laptop can't see the network card!

If I plug the card in one of the slots nothing happens at all, in the other the windows "Wait" hourglass comes up but the machine freezes, have left it for a few minutes to see if anything happens. Pull the card out and it returns to normal. With the card in the "Freezing" slot the machine won't boot up at all.
On startup, with the card in the other slot, the lights on the card do flash on and off.

I've tried checking the card settings and re-installed the drivers. Still not appearing in Device manager.

In Add/Remove programs I've removed the windows update but with no difference to the network.

Shall I throw the machine out of the window?